PATCH v1.21f bugs and issues.

[Gramphos]

Originally posted by Allemand
With old saved games (pre-1.21f) you are stuck with the new random number generator rule (results change on reload). There is no way to reset to the old rule in a saved game.

Hope someone knows how to do it.....

Do you mean that it regenerates the number?

[notyoueither]

Yup. That option is on for old saved games. I can send you one.

[wervdon]

Another repeatable crash bug. I dont know if this one is related to the patch, mods ive made to the rules, or is just me.

Everytime I try to access the city governor with the right click menu on a city (any city) it comes up with critical exception in civilization.exe Its just this game though, id been able to use governors all I wanted in my previous games.

Maybe its that some of my cities are in civil disorder (not sure), thats why I went to access the governors....oh well have to fix it the not lazy way

EDIT: Confirmed, I can access the governors just fine as soon as I manually bring all my cities out of civil disorder. Not sure if its all civil disorder though or just disorder brought on by anarchy between governments (the situation that led to it in that game)

[Gramphos]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Yup. That option is on for old saved games. I can send you one.

I think I know how to edit the old save rules.
And I thing the option (checkbox is off)

[Harovan]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Shift, Right-Click, Click, Click, Click, Click, Click, Click, Click, J, gone.

Thanks for this hint, I hadn't found this yet. Now it makes sense.

Another issue I found, the new city governor let people starve although there would be possibility to feed all. Even if I emphasize production, it could lead to zero growth, but should not lead to unnecessary starvation.

[Father Beast]

old mods

I have a problem where the game won't load my mods where I have modified the tech tree somewhat. it just crashes when finished loading.

I used to have this problem with these mods. the dialogue would come up - "go to map generation" or "Jump directly into the game". If I chose to not go to map generation, it would crash. Now I don't have the option of choosing world parameters, and it crashes every time!!!!!

[Allemand]

Gramphos, the random seed option is off on the old saved games, so we're stuck with the "new" option of getting a different number on a reload.

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Allemand
Gramphos, the random seed option is off on the old saved games, so we're stuck with the "new" option of getting a different number on a reload.

I wonder why that was changed? One thought that crossed my mind was that code interfered with random number generation. By that I mean the combats we've seen where on a fifty/fifty combat you can often see one side or the other score multiple hits without retaliation. Something that shouldn't happen statisically as often as it does.

[Richelieu]

Re: worker bug, advisor crash

Originally posted by Apolex
Okay I installed the 1.21 and loaded my saved game. My workers that I sent to automatically clean up pollution got mowed down my mech-infantry in my own cities as they tried to go through. I know this was a bug from before, but I thought it was fixed. Guess not.

Also I had a complete crash back to desktop twice while trying to get to my advisors screen. This never happened before I applied the 1.21 patch.

*sigh*

-Apolex

I've also had the game crash 4 times, always when trying to access the advisor screen.

(edit)
Played this weekend : Problem is getting worse. I'm still in the same game, but now the whole game is unstable... it just crashes to the desktop every 2 to 3 turns. No warnings or error messages.
I'm running Win2K professional on an Athlon 1G with 256 Megs RAM and a Hercules Kyro ProphetII with 64M.

I'll attach the game this evening.

[Raion]

The only thing I have seen, and still I am not sure about, except on the continent that I am on, (and it is quite large) is that -- there are no luxury resources. Dyes, Furs, whatever, - none on my part of the map. Not a one. Deer, gold, iron, and that stuff, but no luxuries resources.

Maybe I will try re-installing the patch, but that seem to go without a hitch.

Anyone else notice this yet, playing on 5 billion, islands, normal, temperate, type random map, except took off, I think, random seed thing, - not sure what that means yets, - not sure if I am using that or not - rule (when starting game) - think I took it off.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Gramphos

I think I know how to edit the old save rules.
And I thing the option (checkbox is off)

I was not offering to teach you about editing these files....

Sorry if it came across like that. I was offering to send you a sav started with 1.17 where the seed is reset on reload.

[Saint Marcus]

Two bugs:

1. colors are messed up. AI civs colors change with every game I play
2. Building the Hanging Gardens didn't cause a Golden Age for my civ (the Egyptians). I never had a Golden Age before during that game, so it couldn't have been that.

[player1]

Originally posted by Saint Marcus
Two bugs:

1. colors are messed up. AI civs colors change with every game I play
2. Building the Hanging Gardens didn't cause a Golden Age for my civ (the Egyptians). I never had a Golden Age before during that game, so it couldn't have been that.

Hanging Gardens has Industrious trait, but not Religious trait.
So you couldn't start golden age, just with that wonder.

[lorddread]

J command

Is it my imagination or can you only move units of the same type, ie all riflemen, but not cannons or calvary, with the J command? Was it like this on 1.17? I can't remember.

[fluxcapacitor]

call me lazy...

...I didn't read this whole thread. I just wanted to post that the foreign advisor is still all f*cked up: It's still only showing the players' relationship w/ AI civs, not everyone's standing w/ everyone, AI or not. Annoying? You bet.