PATCH v1.21f bugs and issues.

[SpencerH]

Re: J command

Originally posted by lorddread
Is it my imagination or can you only move units of the same type, ie all riflemen, but not cannons or calvary, with the J command? Was it like this on 1.17? I can't remember.

J command only moved the same type with 1.17. Now with 1.21 it only moves the active units of the same type. That change may have some advantages but its a supreme pain when you're trying to herd a large army back to barracks for upgrading.

Firaxis, how's about a wake all command in F3 or better yet a "move all (unit) back to barracks and upgrade" command.

[notyoueither]

Re: call me lazy...

Originally posted by fluxcapacitor
...I didn't read this whole thread. I just wanted to post that the foreign advisor is still all f*cked up: It's still only showing the players' relationship w/ AI civs, not everyone's standing w/ everyone, AI or not. Annoying? You bet.

You have to select everyone. Click on yourself. You see your own lines. Click on Mao. You see his relationships. Shift-Click on all of the leaders. Now you see them all.

[star mouse]

Resource leak in advisor screen

I have had the game crash a few times while negotiating with the AI in the Foreign Advisor.. It's usually the same - the mouse gets fairly unresponsive, then the sound gets corrupted. At that point it's possible to save and quit if you do it immediately, but if it's left alone for long enough a Windows dialogue pops up saying that the system is "dangerously low in resources" (probably GDI resources). It's evidently a resource leak of some kind.

This is an old bug, but it seems to be worse in this version.

[PerpetualNewbie]

CD Check problem AGAIN!

Grrr mentioned it in post #2, but I did not see a solution. Do I have to go through the same nonsense I did when I got the game, and with 1.16? Or is there a way to use the workaround Firaxis tech support sent me last December and go from there?

[The Rook]

I didn't read all 4 pages, but I found what I think is a bug. It happened twice, and I can't explain it. I was researching Theory of Gravity, but as I still had 10 turns, I decided to trade for it with England. As soon as I accepted Her offer, the Science Advisor pops up and says I have discovered Nationalism. Well, I am not complaining, but it seems like a freebie to me. This happened twice, same two advances, same set-up. In my next game, I will try it again.

[star mouse]

Originally posted by The Rook
I didn't read all 4 pages, but I found what I think is a bug. It happened twice, and I can't explain it. I was researching Theory of Gravity, but as I still had 10 turns, I decided to trade for it with England. As soon as I accepted Her offer, the Science Advisor pops up and says I have discovered Nationalism. Well, I am not complaining, but it seems like a freebie to me. This happened twice, same two advances, same set-up. In my next game, I will try it again.

Are you by any chance playing a Scientific civ?

[The Rook]

Yes, I had never played a scientific Civ before, and now I just read why I'm getting the freebies. So, it's not a bug, just my goof. I guess I didn't notice it in the earlier era, because I had the Great Library. Thanks for the heads-up.

[Coracle]

That FLOOD OF SETTLERS

I see Firaxis did NOT bother to solve this annoying flood of settlers with 1.21.

Settler/spearmen pairs continue to march right into my territory.
I tell them to leave, and then tell them again. They don't leave.

I them tell them to leave or declare war.

At that point one of two stupid things will happen: either they will magically teleport themselves to the nearest open tile on the other side of my empire, or, even a pacifistic civ WILL declare war.

It is utterly ASININE.

BTW, with 1.21, Firaxis took a slow game. . . AND MADE IT EVEN SLOWER!!

[player1]

Re: That FLOOD OF SETTLERS

Originally posted by Coracle
I see Firaxis did NOT bother to solve this annoying flood of settlers with 1.21.

Settler/spearmen pairs continue to march right into my territory.
I tell them to leave, and then tell them again. They don't leave.

I them tell them to leave or declare war.

At that point one of two stupid things will happen: either they will magically teleport themselves to the nearest open tile on the other side of my empire, or, even a pacifistic civ WILL declare war.

It is utterly ASININE.

Best solution: Fill the gaps in your empire.
Don't be afraid to overlap sometimes.

BTW, with 1.21, Firaxis took a slow game. . . AND MADE IT EVEN SLOWER!!

Tip: turn off AUTOSAVE (since svaed games are now compressed)

[The Viceroy]

Ohh the settler flood .. Im sitting on a large continent, with 6 other Civs, and to the south of me is a very very large area of tundra with very few deers .. and I had to abandon the game as all the other civs were constantly sending across settler + defenders .. ever single turn, I had to go through the motions of telling every single AI player to bog off, or declare war .. finally, they got sick of it, and declared war .. I thought, SOD IT .. im going for an Island map ..

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE stop the AI from constantly trying to move into territory that it has previously been sent away from ... its so so so so annoying, and wrecks any game on a large continent with many other players.

The whole notion of wanting to settle tundra and desert with no resources is rather silly ..

This is a Bug!!

[punkbass2000]

wahwah, the AI is too good for me

[Zoid]

Civ3, take 3

OK, it´s the second time I´ve reinstalled Civ3. I´m at 690 BC and so far so good. Some things I noticed:

¤ Disband city I have used this feature a couple of times since the AI still is piss poor at chosing city cites...
(Edit: When I´m conquer AI cities that is)

¤ Governor STILL asks if I´d like to build aqueduct when I got like three turns left on a wonder. Minor bug, but still annoying

¤ Why can´t the AI separate the civs better? I´m playing archipelago. There´s approx. 20 islands of various sizes. 6 ( ) civs (including me) is located on the same frigging island!! And the AI don´t build triremes, so every friggin´civ keeps barging into my territory and wanders aimlessly around until it finds a patch of land on the fringes of my empire (not a big problem, since I´ll eat them in a hundred years or so anyway, but still STUPID!)

¤ A lot of people has complained that the game is even slower now, with the compressed .sav and everything. I´m not noticing any difference. I´m playing on a standard size map with 8 civs.

More reflections to come...

[Zoid]

I forgot...

¤ Corruption less hampering than before. Wohoo!

[The Viceroy]

punkbass2000


I wish I was as good at Civ as you.


What was interesting though, was that all civs on that turn, declared war when I told them to get stuffed .. and up until that point, had removed there troops .. there must be a tolerence limit somewhere, which tells ALL ai's to call your bluff at the same time.

It has nothing to do with the state of affairs between nations, as the Egyptians were polite and id just got them to join with me against one of the other civs that had declared war.. yet still they declared war ..

Settlers going for tundra/desert is just daft .. unless it secures some resource or closes gaps in there borders.

[Fidel]

Originally posted by The Viceroy
Ohh the settler flood .. Im sitting on a large continent, with 6 other Civs, and to the south of me is a very very large area of tundra with very few deers .. and I had to abandon the game as all the other civs were constantly sending across settler + defenders .. ever single turn, I had to go through the motions of telling every single AI player to bog off, or declare war .. finally, they got sick of it, and declared war .. I thought, SOD IT .. im going for an Island map ..

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE stop the AI from constantly trying to move into territory that it has previously been sent away from ... its so so so so annoying, and wrecks any game on a large continent with many other players.

The whole notion of wanting to settle tundra and desert with no resources is rather silly ..

This is a Bug!!

nah, they are just being naughty