it's here: 1.21F PATCH DETAILS

[Zoid]

Originally posted by Mike Breitkreutz FIRAXIS
A couple points:

- The culturally linked starting locations option has been moved to the player setup screen since having it as a preference was pointless being that changing it during the game had no effect.

- Issues with upgrading and fortifying have been fixed (I think that was missing from the readme). If units were upgraded while fortified they will stay fortified after upgrading.

OK! Great!

Damn, I might just install this game again

[dunk]

* Mods no longer show gray lines on Science Advisor screen.

I love it. WOO HOO!

This isn't sarcasm.

[Allemand]

Only one I don't like is the map size changes. Don't know why anyone would want smaller maps. But looks like there is a workaround.

Appears that we can now reuse our random game maps, which is good. The editor-generated maps are not as good as the game-generated ones.

[Jaybe]

* Fixed bug involving extra movement costs if the unit can't advance after combat.

I see this one as being a very dramatic change for all blitz units, a fix that I have been clamoring for since last year.
OTH, it is now relatively rare to find an obsolete unit anymore.

[fezick31]

ah, that make sme feel better about the culture starts
thanks mike.

Has anyone ever had a civ restart after it dies? I've never seen it.

[Shadowlord]

Originally posted by panag
okay , so , lets get this correct , ya cant restrict movement in the mountains , but ya could give a movement bonus , or take it away on the 3 different sea squares ? , bong , someting seems not right with it , why not keep mountain restriction and ad the sea option .

They didn't take away the mountain restriction. Got it?

Originally posted by panag
and how can they know if one uses it or not , their spyware cant be that good , was there a poll or so , ....................????????
i did not see it

Excuse me?

[Shadowlord]

I've seen one restart. In my current game, I wiped the Russians out from the northern end of the continent in the ancient era, and they magically got a new city on the south end of the continent, and weren't "wiped out". I checked the replay, I'm pretty sure it "respawned" them, and it probably only respawns them if there's an empty spot available for a new city somewhere.

[Shadowlord]

Originally posted by panag
one has just spend a couple dys on a map and on a mod , .....then that person starts to play , and play , its a 255x255 map , so about a week later the player sees certainly that he forget something , in his rush , .........mamamiaaaaa

so , a cheat would do a lot here , Firaxis ,..........

That would be funny to anyone he complained to, yes, but not a good reason for Firaxis to add cheats to Civ III....

Originally posted by panag
hmmmm , so foot / mouted , will we see units like a catapult moving over mountains ? , fun , must be nice with tha snow , .....

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Originally posted by panag
what about corruption , sometimes one can not build 2 wonders , at least one of them , you give for example both "lowers corruption"

Who said you had to build two wonders in your cities to lower corruption? He said building courthouses and police stations will combat corruption etc better. If it takes 80 turns to build them, it's still possible, and you can rush build them anyhow.

[ixnay]

Thanks for the clarifications. It just keeps getting better...

[Grrr]

Could they make two boxes for map size in the game setup screen? It couldn't be that hard, could it?

[Panag]

hi ,

leaders ; generaly speaking the first army you build is "regular" , with the military academy it becomes "regular" , however i never seen an army (that first one ) become regular after battle or even "elite" .

huh , i never seen a leader in the "ancient ages"


have a nice day

[Zoid]

Originally posted by Shadowlord
I've seen one restart. In my current game, I wiped the Russians out from the northern end of the continent in the ancient era, and they magically got a new city on the south end of the continent, and weren't "wiped out". I checked the replay, I'm pretty sure it "respawned" them, and it probably only respawns them if there's an empty spot available for a new city somewhere.

Yeah, it happened to me too in my last game (or what I then thought was my last game...) I spent the better part of a saturday kicking some french butt. And when I´m finished and want to inspect my french ridden world there´s a new friggin french city on another continent!! How annoying isn´t that?

[Hagbart]

It can't be that hard to include a minimap in the editor!

[Panag]

Who said you had to build two wonders in your cities to lower corruption? He said building courthouses and police stations will combat corruption etc better. If it takes 80 turns to build them, it's still possible, and you can rush build them anyhow. [/QUOTE]

hi ,


no one said anything , i am just saying that if you give certain options to 2 wonders you some times have problems , it seems that certain wonders can not combine certain things (twice) like , for example "lowers corruption" or reduces war weariness , .......

sometimes if you give those values to 2 wonders or 3 or more , you can not build wonder no 2 or 3 or 4 , etc , ......

have a nice day

[ACooper]

Originally posted by Hagbart
It can't be that hard to include a minimap in the editor!

How many times are you going to repeat this?