No FREE MP = CANCEL your orders / DON'T buy Civ3

[Shiva]

Originally posted by yin26
As I said, take out a note pad, quit trolling...and watch what will happen.

Sorry not trolling, just stating what the real world is like out there for you

[yin26]

Note pad, Shiva. N o t e P a d.

[splangy]

Originally posted by drake


Splangy, please. Little kiddies like you, who will have to rely on mommy and daddy to buy games for them really can't say much.

Hmmm Thats funny, considering Im not a "little Kid" and I already preordered my game with my money

And trust me, this "abstract site" wouldn't mind seeing you and your little prepubscent ass leave

so because I dont agree with one person I should leave a site ive been at for 5 years. RRRIIIGGGHHHTTT...

So im not allowed to state my oppinion if its against yin? Ooohhh im sorry, did I hert yins feelings? Its apparent to me that Yin can't defend himself so his sheep have to... Thats pretty hilarius

Troll ALERT! Troll ALERT!

[yin26]

Shiva: Try to find a two-for-one deal on the note-pads for our friend here. Oh, and some Prozac for him if its on sale. Thanks.

[splangy]

Originally posted by Jingo
for all you people who say "im not buying civ3 without mp", i know your lying.

you know your obsessed. if you're on apolyton debating this fact, you have to love civ.

you dont just hear about a game and spend 3 months or more talking about it and researching it only to not buy it.

firaxis got you good, now bend over and pay.

Couldn't Agree more.

[splangy]

Originally posted by yin26
Shiva: Try to find a two-for-one deal on the note-pads for our friend here. Oh, and some Prozac for him if its on sale. Thanks.

Again, avoiding the subject and going personal, but what else can I expect from this guy...

[Steve Clark]

Good thing I'm going on vacation for a week. Hopefully by the time I get back, yin and tniem will have found another hobby. Sigh.

[yin26]

And you will have convinced yourself all you need for a good Civ3 are two lines of code and a programming manual. *sigh*

[yin26]

Splangy: Since you are my leading groupie, I'll finally address your idiocy directly:

Everything you THINK I've said so far is wrong, with the exception of the pirating thread, which I know was an obvious statement to make. The other things you mention only prove that you couldn't understand the basic arguments I was making in the first place.

Now, considering I find you incapable of A) Presenting an argument based on facts and not your silly trolls and B) Understanding basic facts to begin with, I have determined that you are only worth responding to if I feel like wasting some time.

But you, my little groupie, stalker friend, should sleep happy knowing that I will likely waste some more time on you again if I get really bored. Mark this day in your calendar.

[Steve Clark]

Originally posted by yin26
And you will have convinced yourself all you need for a good Civ3 are two lines of code and a programming manual. *sigh*

Not a bad idea, actually. As long as I can get someone else to do the graphics stuff.

yin, have a good week my friend.

[yin26]

You, too.

[Palpatine]

Hmm I can't understand why some of you attack yin. He gave us his opinion and he has every right to do so.

I can't say I totaly agree with him. But he made me think about the game and its "gold-status". If they cut a big feature like multiplayer without explaining it to the fans... then you can be as good as sure that the singleplayer is also effected in one or other way. Looks for me like they run out of time and money. Ctp had the same prob. Many people thought it would be THAT game but it was rushed and we - the custumer - have to pay for it. That is not the way it should be they have at least to tell us the truth.

Another point is that they hold back the reviews that doesnt makes me feel better about the game... .

I guess I am going to wait for the first pach and read the player comments before I buy this game.

Palpi

[TheRussianKing]

Originally posted by DonJoel
Do Firaxis suck?

Yes, they do.

Always have?

No. They used to be cool.

Why do they suck?

They lie, they run away, they abuse peoples loyality.

(These statements only applies if Firaxis charge anything for mp, not if its a free download. But if it was, why wouldnt they say so?)

ADD to that!!!::

Since Ive made myself a well functioning Modpack in CTP1 (my favorite game so far) I think itll be better thn civ3 anyway!

FIRAXIS IS WORSE THAN ACTIVISION!!!!!
Activision gave us everything they promised to give us!
They gave us CTP. the only reason that was so crap is because they didnt know how to make civs.
They REALISED that they made a mistake and tried their best to make a better game. Although it had more errors, you can see they have put a lil effort in it.
FIRAXIS is sitting there planning on selling civ3 and because its so addictive, theyll sell MP as well JUST TO MAKE MONEY.

Its alright what they did to civ2 because Sid didnt know that he could imply MP, thats why he created the expansion. NOT because he wanted to get money out of it in the first place!

FIRAXIS U PISS ME OFF! Now u better make a damn good army otherwise ur screwed, because Activision's combat system which im gonna use to CRUSH u is better than Sid's system!

[Boris Godunov]

I will not cancel my preorder

I've played Civ since 1991, and have yet to play one single game of MP. So it doesn't matter to me.

I don't think Firaxis behaved badly. They held off making an announcement because they didn't know what they would be able to do.

For those of you who are MP fans, and you feel you were deceived into preordering Civ...Guess what? You can cancel. You haven't bought it yet. Feel free. In fact, I encourage it if it will ensure they don't run out and I get mine faster.

Don't go around screaming about "false advertising" and deception when not one single person has actually bought the game.

Will I buy an MP expansion? If it's JUST MP...nope, not interested. If it includes new civs and other, non-MP features? Provided I like the original (which I think I will), you betcha. Happily. If I get MP with it, that's swell. Doesn't matter.

Everyone here has a right to b!tch however they want, and I think there are many people who are only happy when complaining. But I think you'd all feel much better if you would step back, say to yourself: "It is just a game. A game I haven't bought yet, a game I don't own. It's not that important."

Then go out and romp in a meadow.

Cheers.

[yin26]

It is just a game. A game I haven't bought yet, a game I don't own. It's not that important."

I basically agree. But you have to realize that a number of people here really poured a lot of time and effort to try to help Firaxis implement some cool ideas. And while these people represent a very small fraction of the Civ population, their influence cannot be overestimated.

And those are the people who feel Firaxis has not met even the least degree of civility in thanking the fans in some announcement or even in keeping them informed IN THE FACE OF REPEATED REQUESTS for information that, for some of us, is crucial to whether we buy the game now, later or ever.

So I would say: 'It's not that important' unless you've spent the last two years of a lot of your free time to try to help the company get some great ideas...only to be basically blown aside.

Does Firaxis have every right to act that way? Of course. Will acting that way affect the average 15 year old just browsing in the computer store? No, probably not. But will alienating a core group of your most die hard fans eventually bite you in the butt?

Who knows, actually. But the stupidity of doing so astounds me when all it would have taken this entire time are some piddly official announcements and few nods towards where these ideas came from in the first place.

Of course, the tumble-weed posters here who invested nothing in this process the past 2 years are rolling in here with their b.s., uninformed attitude that there is nothing to complain about. I suppose if I had ignored Civ3 the past 2 years I'd feel the same way.