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  • Yes please do... I always try and use psychology to judge people and their probable responses, and the PTWDG is just like a huge lab for this...
    A true ally stabs you in the front.

    Secretary General of the U.N. & IV Emperor of the Glory of War PTWDG | VIII Consul of Apolyton PTW ISDG | GoWman in Stormia CIVDG | Lurker Troll Extraordinaire C3C ISDG Final | V Gran Huevote Team Latin Lover | Webmaster Master Zen Online | CivELO (3°)

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    • I am so lost now.

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      • Here was my speech on Psych, and the active list of GS at present as well as their positions:

        Greetings zeit,

        I must admit, GS has been my personal favorite team to deal with. Always straight up and free of the games that are involved in some of the other teams.

        As far as Jung is concerned, I have had no real formal training and only am able to read whatever I can get my hands on at the local library here, which is not always much.

        I originally was interested in him due to my own heritage. I am 1/8 Sioux, and spent a year with a shaman on the reservation. I noticed many similarities between Jung and the Sioux religion. In addition, I have seen many things that he describes in action, such as the collective consciou(sp) and Collective Unconscious(sp).

        Any sporting event can be seen as an experiment in the CC/CU in fact. To a smaller effect, so can a good horror movie. Your emotions and reactions simply run deeper because of the magnitude of people that are around you feeling the same way. Re: the sports, living here in Utah, I experienced this myself. I could care less for basketball. However, when the Jazz were in the finals a few years ago, I was fully caught up in the emotion that the entire town was feeling. It was quite interesting when I stepped back and examined it as such.

        I have been surprised at how well the Internet can be a vehicle for these same experiences, and as such I predicted a 'personality' for the CC of each of the teams based on what I knew of the people who signed up. So far, I have been pretty accurate with the teams I knew most about (lego and vox had allot of strangers to me at the time). I often find myself needing to remove myself from the game a bit to get an objective view, though, since the GoW shapes my own perception, and perception IS your reality. That is what we are seeing, the different teams, how their CC perceives the game, and the different realities that are becoming apparant.

        I have also been tracking how dominant leaders are effecting the perceptions of their teams. Togas is one such leader, and that team has definately blindly followed his lead. Ghengis may have been early on was as well, but GoW seems to be full of strong personalities, and some very interesting internal debates have arisen because of it, none of us are very willing to go with the flow so to speak and insisting on having our own perceptions recognized.

        This is waxing long and I need to get my sons to bed.

        Until later
        UnOrthOdOx
        Dear UnO!

        Please accept my apology for the delay, It's been a hectic day, and I've barely made it to finish my academic chores in time...

        Thank you for the elaborate explanations of the Jungian'ism (is that an acceptable term?) as you it in the game. I always thought Jung mentioned the symbols and the collective uncs. as universal, but now that you mentioned it, it does make sense that in different cultures (and teams), different symbols and archetypes are menifested in different ways.

        And now, for the official list of key-members. This are not "officials" in every sense of the word, as our team is run mostly by discussion and an attempt to reach consensus, but still:

        Notyoueither- the founding father of the team, doesn't have any official duty, but he is sometimes looked on as the 'godgather'

        Sir Ralph- once a dedicated in-game player, his activity has gown down over the last couple of months, and now is back up. A true Hawk.

        Arrian and Thesues- the two co-generals of the GS army. They are always "to the point" and tend to spare the chit-chat.

        nbarclay (Nahan)- Our never-sleeping player, and our talented chief economist. He was also our de-facto ambassador in Vox.

        Aeson- a dedicated economist and analyst of the team, working alongside Nathan on the short and long-term planning of infrastructure and city planning.

        DeepO- a gifted diplomat, who was once a white dove. He is now a bit closer to the dark side, after the traumatic war of Voxian agression.

        ManaicStarSeed (MSS)- our newly appointed FAM, who was recently beack from a long exile.

        That would be it.

        I wish you success with your writing.

        Zeit,
        Gathering Storm ambassador in the Glory of War.
        One who has a surplus of the unorthodox shall attain surpassing victories. - Sun Pin
        You're wierd. - Krill

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        • Are Shiber and Alva gone?

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          • Originally posted by GhengisFarb
            I am so lost now.
            Ghengis, I am usually in the Apolyton chat room (#GoW) every night after 9 or 10 EST. Catch me one of these days so I can better fill you in on what you've missed.
            A true ally stabs you in the front.

            Secretary General of the U.N. & IV Emperor of the Glory of War PTWDG | VIII Consul of Apolyton PTW ISDG | GoWman in Stormia CIVDG | Lurker Troll Extraordinaire C3C ISDG Final | V Gran Huevote Team Latin Lover | Webmaster Master Zen Online | CivELO (3°)

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            • Honorable UnOrthOdOx.

              Greetings from the Gathering Storm.

              As you might have already known, Vox and the GS have recently begun talks in an attempt to end the conflict between us.

              I'll just say that our team has decided that in order to end the war with Vox, they must leave the continent. This issue was presented to Vox, but was not discussed, as we have yet to recieve a response from them regarding this idea.

              The public's opinion in this matter is also important for us. To be more precise and to the point: If Vox is to leave the continent, they must find have a chunk of land to settle on, this chunk of land would preferably be unclaimed territory, or an agreed upon location.

              We wanted to ask you, what is your opinion in this matter, and if you have any suggestions for a suitable location

              We would also want to know if you'd even support such a development, should it come into possible realization.

              Cordially

              Zeit, Gathering Storm's ambassador in the Glory of War
              One who has a surplus of the unorthodox shall attain surpassing victories. - Sun Pin
              You're wierd. - Krill

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              • My initial response:
                Greetings zeit,

                I have copied this information to our forums, and hope to have an answer to your inquiry soon.

                Also, I wanted to aproach the subject of a possible chat again, I think it may have been lost with our conversation of psychology a bit. Is there a time that would work for GS members to be able to attend a Chat with GoW? We wish to discuss several things and feel a chat is the best forum in which to discuss them, but we also understand if this is impossible with the various schedules. If such is the case, I will attempt to discuss the matters at hand over the course of several PM's/E-mails.

                Respectfully,
                UnOrthOdOx
                Vice Calf and Ambassador to Gathering Storm
                Sounds as if they are willing to consider sending Vox to Legoland....
                One who has a surplus of the unorthodox shall attain surpassing victories. - Sun Pin
                You're wierd. - Krill

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                • Hmmm ..

                  All of my emails from Beta is then wantling to settle on the North East of Bob.
                  I suggested they talk to Lego...but he seems reluctant.

                  It is a difficult situation.

                  If we could use them as a vassel state (ie just produce tech for us, and send over warriors for us to use for GL hunting.) then I would agree.

                  But the truth is, we could never really trust them.
                  They need to relocate to Lego.


                  This is bizzare....
                  I send my email to Beta regarding "evacuation plans" to another continent.
                  And then all of a sudden, everyone is talking about it.
                  "No Comment"

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                  • According to my chat with Zargon, they haven't been contacted about Vox going to Legoland.

                    Vox is reluctant about pretty much everything these days.
                    Proud Member of the ISDG Apolyton Team; Member #2 in the Apolyton Yact Club.
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                    • What guarantee does Vox have that GS won't charge and kill them off in Bob? To me Lego seems farther and safer. Plus, it's not like we could actually defend them against GS...
                      A true ally stabs you in the front.

                      Secretary General of the U.N. & IV Emperor of the Glory of War PTWDG | VIII Consul of Apolyton PTW ISDG | GoWman in Stormia CIVDG | Lurker Troll Extraordinaire C3C ISDG Final | V Gran Huevote Team Latin Lover | Webmaster Master Zen Online | CivELO (3°)

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                      • Originally posted by Hot_Enamel

                        This is bizzare....
                        I send my email to Beta regarding "evacuation plans" to another continent.
                        And then all of a sudden, everyone is talking about it.
                        Hmm.... perhaps you fullfilled my nightmare?

                        A few days (weeks) ago I had a nightmare about accidentally sending the ND chat log to BigFree (RP) since he is just above Borc in my mailing List...

                        could it have happened?
                        A true ally stabs you in the front.

                        Secretary General of the U.N. & IV Emperor of the Glory of War PTWDG | VIII Consul of Apolyton PTW ISDG | GoWman in Stormia CIVDG | Lurker Troll Extraordinaire C3C ISDG Final | V Gran Huevote Team Latin Lover | Webmaster Master Zen Online | CivELO (3°)

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                        • Be also aware, That Beta has told us that GS always "encouraged" them to settle Bob. GS could be wanting to use them as a foothold onto Bob.

                          Either by vassel state or conquest at a later time. I suggest it is GS who is pushing Vox to move to Bob.

                          Unortho .. you have to chat with GS ASAP and tell them to start pushing Lego as a first choice.
                          "No Comment"

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                          • Honorable UnOrthOdOx.

                            I'm sorry for not attending the issue of a chat. The next week will be quite busy for me, but I think I can manage it. after the somewhat 'silent' period we've gone trhouh, with regard to foreign relations, I don't think I'll miss this opportunity.

                            I'll post about this in our board. In the meantime, can you send me the times suitable for your team?

                            Thank you, and kind regards

                            Zeit, Ambassador for the Gathering Storm.
                            One who has a surplus of the unorthodox shall attain surpassing victories. - Sun Pin
                            You're wierd. - Krill

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                            • Honorable zeit,

                              I hope things are proceeding well on your end.

                              It seems the best time for GoW to hold a chat would be:

                              22:00 New York time, converting that (assuming the program in my palm is correct) That is 02:00 GMT, 19:00 California time.

                              Would this be possible for GS?

                              Also, I wanted to impart to you the Agenda for the chat, so that we may all be on the same page and progess with something resembling efficiency. (ok, Im just an organizational freak, I find it much easier when everyone is prepared)

                              The Items that GoW wishes to discuss are as follows:
                              1. The Status of War/Peace between GoW and GS
                              2. The Status of Scientific Research
                              3. The Status of Vox
                              4. The Status of Bob


                              Is there anything that Gathering Storm wishes to add to this list so that I may be fully prepared to discuss it?

                              Respectfully,
                              UnOrthOdOx
                              Vice Calf and Ambassador to Gathering Storm.
                              One who has a surplus of the unorthodox shall attain surpassing victories. - Sun Pin
                              You're wierd. - Krill

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                              • Dear UnOrthOdox:

                                Sorry for taking this long, it is only now that I can tell you for certain that we will be able to hold a chat, at 0300 GMT on this saturday 14/6/2003.

                                I hope this small change won't prevent you from attending.

                                Please add the following topic to your agenda:

                                -GS' oncoming harbor completion and the prospect of Luxury and Iron trade.

                                With thanks,
                                Zeit.
                                For all us Americans on Daylight Savings, this works out to 23:00 New York, 20:00 California (assuming this program on my palm is accurate)
                                One who has a surplus of the unorthodox shall attain surpassing victories. - Sun Pin
                                You're wierd. - Krill

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