$Mini-Game BETA: Trade Thread

[Franses]

What I understand is:
You do not fall back to the default. That would be unfair to those who are willing to deal against lower prices. You just don't sell your stuff.

[UnOrthOdOx]

We are to make no acceptance for those who cannot be on in time to check final trades stats?

I was giving an order: If the standard price drops below my previous offers, my offers will be changed to standard price at the time since I am very busy, and this is of a lower importance to other things at the moment so I may not be checking it much.

[GhengisFarb™]

I think it'l all work out as I find it unlikely everyone will always be here, jyou can always set your prices low on occasions where you may not be here the whole trading period.

[GhengisFarb™]

Estate of GhengisFarb
Turn #: 001
Holdings:
Tile 004 Apolyton NW, Grassland
Tile 015 Termina NE3, Jungle
Tile 022 Tassagrad NW, Jungle
Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce
Cash: $0
Debt: -$1000 (10% interest, 15 turns remaining on grace period)


Administered by: GhengisFarb

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Production this turn: 4 food, 0 shield, 0 commerce
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Proposed Deals:

Sell 4(of 4) food @ $50 each ([New D:S = 26/48 = $54)


Side note to fellow nobles: I sold all 4 as I don't think everyone's going to post before the market closes.

[Epistax]

Originally posted by Epistax
Epistan Plantation
Turn #: 001
Holdings:
Tile 009 Termina N, Jungle.
Tile 012 Termina NW, Jungle.
Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce
Cash: $0
Debt: -$750 (10% interest starting turn 15)

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Production this turn: 2 food, 0 shield, 0 commerce
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Proposed Deals:

Sell 2 (of 2) food @ $50 each (New D:S = 26/48 = $54)

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[Captain]

by request, I'll hold off posting the next Market Assessment for a few hours. just to give a chance for anyone else.

but, in a little while we'll see what changes 5 game turns makes on our markets. I'm sure we all want to see what turn #2 will eb like!

btw, now I have to go return a computer I just bought! hp's a re totally unupgradable! stupid welded/riveted frame! what happened to screws?.

UnOrtho and others, if you can't handle your own estate all the time, that's what you hire others to help out with . I'm sure they'll only take a small fee. Or if you make it contingent on performance (e.g. a % of profits) then you know they'll have your best interests at heart too.

But if someone is willing to track the standing orders of "sell at $1 below default", then I'm sure that would be valid too. The only difficulty at that time would be if all nobles did that and the nobles were trying to sell more food than demanded. how to pick who gets to sell if all prices are even?

[Franses]

Originally posted by Captain
But if someone is willing to track the standing orders of "sell at $1 below default", then I'm sure that would be valid too. The only difficulty at that time would be if all nobles did that and the nobles were trying to sell more food than demanded. how to pick who gets to sell if all prices are even?

Hm, this confuses me a bit. A standing order like that would not guarantee you a sale, right? A standing order that would guarantee a sale would be "1$ below the lowest bid". Or do I still not understand it?

[DAVOUT]

Captain,

One of the reasons of this problem is that the nobles sell all their production although a portion has been lost due to the waste and consequently is not available for sale on the market.

Another reason is that on most markets one transaction does not change the price ; I recommend that a market price be fixed for one full turn, based on the quantities that the nobles intended to sell.

Last thing : The nobles will be extremely motivated to make decrease the waste since it reduces directly les quantities available.

Then a detail : commerce represents in the game all services ; the services cannot be stockpiled.

[DAVOUT]

Edited : Triple post !

[DAVOUT]

Edited : double post

[GhengisFarb™]

Originally posted by DAVOUT
Captain,

One of the reasons of this problem is that the nobles sell all their production although a portion has been lost due to the waste and consequently is not available for sale on the market.

Another reason is that on most markets one transaction does not change the price ; I recommend that a market price be fixed for one full turn, based on the quantities that the nobles intended to sell.

Actually, one transaction of this size would change the price. If someone sold 5% of the nations supply of grain in one transaction the price would move.

Originally posted by DAVOUT Then a detail : commerce represents in the game all services ; the services cannot be stockpiled.

Commerce doesn't represent services, labor does. Commerce represents Trade Goods.

[DAVOUT]

We should ask the Adam Smith Foundation on the definition of services. Labor is not an output of the economy, it is an input ; services are an output.

As far as we can see the grain market, there are more than 20 transactions per year, by far, in most countries. But you are perfectly entitled to modelize some kind of fairy market without reference to the RL and even to the game.

[UnOrthOdOx]

Ok, Who is willing to handle my estate till WrWIA is back, and at what price?

My objectives are to pay off the debt at this point.

[GhengisFarb™]

TROLL ALERT!

Originally posted by DAVOUT
We should ask the Adam Smith Foundation on the definition of services. Labor is not an output of the economy, it is an input ; services are an output.

Have you paid any attention to the rules we worked out? Labor is the population, not an ourput of the economy as you mistakenly believe. We the nobles are providing the services.

Originally posted by DAVOUT As far as we can see the grain market, there are more than 20 transactions per year, by far, in most countries. But you are perfectly entitled to modelize some kind of fairy market without reference to the RL and even to the game.

I dont know, we don't have any records of civilizations in 430 BC making more than 20 transactions a year, do you have some Archaelogical Dig in your backyard the rest of the world doesn't know about?

[GhengisFarb™]

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
Ok, Who is willing to handle my estate till WrWIA is back, and at what price?

My objectives are to pay off the debt at this point.

I would be willing to do it if we don't work out some other system.