$Mini-Game BETA: Trade Thread

[Captain]

you can always change your offer at any time, not just your offering price. You can even decide to "eat" or "buy back" your own food. of course, this changes things for the other players, so your post cannot simply say "cancel orders", you need to repost your deals so people can know how it affects things.

example:
If GF decides not to sell any food at all, he would change the current D:S = 26 : 31+3+2+2 - 3 = 26:35 = $74 (which raises profits for the other players from the present 26:38 = $68). Obviously GF wouldn't do this because he gains nothing from it, except the goodwill of the other players (whatever that's worth).

[Spiffor]

Captain :
I'm the first one to sell shields, and the second one to sell commerce. It was pretty difficult for me to follow what were the already supplied quantities.
I suggest you frequently update your second post in this manner :

Commerce Demand: 6+4+3+5=18
Commerce Supplied: 6+5+3+7+1(Unorthodox)+1(Spiffor)=23

D:S: = 18/23 =78%
Default Commerce price = $78

You truly deserve a free land for your hard work. I think there's a wonderful $1500 land with tons of commerce, food and shield available... Go for it !

[Epistax]

Epistan Plantation
Turn #: 001
Holdings:
Tile 009 Termina N, Jungle.
Tile 012 Termina NW, Jungle.
Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce
Cash: $0
Debt: -$750 (10% interest starting turn 15)

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Production this turn: 2 food, 0 shield, 0 commerce
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Proposed Deals:

Sell 2 (of 2) food @ $55 each (New D:S = 26/38+2 = $65)


(did I screw anything?)

[Captain]

"Free" Market update:
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Market Update sponsored by your local Market Assessor and Government Agent.

Current Food D:S = 26/40 = $65

Current Shield D:S = 16/19 = $84

Current Commerce D:S = 18/23 = $78

Available labour: 13 of 13 (assuming jdd did not hire any)

[adaMada]

Hope I do this right... (Just to check -- I hope my math is right; grassland with mine and road produces three food, one shield, one commerce, right?) If anything in the following deal is wrong, I probably made a mistake, and let me know .


Estate of adaMada
Turn #: 001
Holdings:
Tile 005 Apolyton NW, Grassland
Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce
Cash: $0
Debt: -$1200 (10% interest, 15 turns remaining on grace period)


Administered by: adaMada


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Production this turn: 2 food, 1 shield, 1 commerce
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Proposed Deals:

Sell 2 (of 2) food @ $65 each
Sell 1 (of 1) shield @ $84 each
Sell 1 ( of 1) commerce @ $78 each

Have to go right now, but if nothing has posted by the time I get back I'll post new prices.

[GhengisFarb™]

Is the minimum labor rate $100, cause that's kinda steep considering the cheapest you build a inn for would be $4000 NOT including shields.

Oh, and aadaMada, grassland only produces 2 food. Unless I'm mistaken the only people producing more than two food are jdd2007 (3 food) and me (4 food).

(I actually made a chart with all owned land to compute exactly how much of everything could be sold. Currently, the players could produce a maximum of 29 food meaning in a worse case scenario someone gets stuck with 3 food-market will only buy 26.)

[Captain]

GF, $100 base rate

if you are the only one hiring, that's 1/13 =6.6%.
6.6% of 100$ is only 7$ rounded to nearest dollar.
that's pretty cheap.
of course, that assumes no one else is hiring.

i'm sure you can work something out with your fellow nobles.

[GhengisFarb™]

EDIT: Took offer off table until kinks worked out.

[adaMada]

Originally posted by GhengisFarb
Oh, and aadaMada, grassland only produces 2 food. Unless I'm mistaken the only people producing more than two food are jdd2007 (3 food) and me (4 food).

(I actually made a chart with all owned land to compute exactly how much of everything could be sold. Currently, the players could produce a maximum of 29 food meaning in a worse case scenario someone gets stuck with 3 food-market will only buy 26.)

You're totally right, my screw-up, fixed in my post now (glad it was caught before it had any real affects on the game ).

Is that chart in a postable form? It might be interesting to see what it looks like, if it's not too much trouble...

-- adaMada

[Captain]

adaMada,

Sell 3 (of 3) food @ $65 each (under despotism, it's only 2 food, sorry)
Sell 1 (of 1) shield @ $84 each
Sell 1 ( of 1) commerce @ $78 each

These aren't confirmed deals. these are just your offers. so you don't get any cash, yet.

aslo, when you offer deals, you need to update the D:S. that way the latest post will always have the most curent prices, and no one has to go hunting for them. We each put in a little effort and the whole thing will go smoothly. Otherwise, someone has to continually monitor this thread and update - which is fine if someone can, I can't. I'm just monitoiring the start up until we've got a regular rhythm going.


So... (from most recent post's D:S plus adaMada's in bold)

New Food D:S = 26: 40+2 = 26:42 = $62
New shield D:S = 16:19+1 = 16:20 = $80
New commerce D:S = 18:23+2 = 18:24 = $75


next person to post deals should update the above D:S, just like I did. it's not that hard, just add your supply to the supply total and your demand (if any) to the demand total. calculate new ratios. that's the new default price. anyone selling below the default prices at Market's closing (turn end) is almost guaranteed they'll sell.

alright? hope this helps.

[GhengisFarb™]

Originally posted by adaMada


You're totally right, my screw-up, fixed in my post now (glad it was caught before it had any real affects on the game ).

Is that chart in a postable form? It might be interesting to see what it looks like, if it's not too much trouble...

-- adaMada

Well, I might share my calculations if could get enough food producers to agree to the following. We have 3 excess food, we need to make a rotation where each turn 3 people hold back one food each. Then we can all sell at the maximum price, EVERYBODY makes money.

jdd2007 and I have already agreed to give up one food each this turn, if we can get several more people on the system we should be able to pay our loans back before having to pay interest, assuming you don't build anything.

If you want to be a part of this simply post:

"I wish to join the Osiris Food Cartel"

[Captain]

Remember, the collateral for your loan is the property you now own! Don't default on your interest payments! Reduce that debt rightaway!

Despite having no overall time limit for repayment (you could just pay the per turn interest rate indefinitely), I remind you that purchasing new tiles is strictly prohibited to those with outstanding government debts.

This message brought to you by your local Government Agent, working for YOU!

[Epistax]

Holding back food right now works for some, but not others. I make 2 food a turn. So if I hold one back, the price of food has to double for me to break even

[adaMada]

Originally posted by Captain
adaMada,



These aren't confirmed deals. these are just your offers. so you don't get any cash, yet.

Ohh, ok. Sorry for the confusion .

aslo, when you offer deals, you need to update the D:S. that way the latest post will always have the most curent prices, and no one has to go hunting for them. We each put in a little effort and the whole thing will go smoothly. Otherwise, someone has to continually monitor this thread and update - which is fine if someone can, I can't. I'm just monitoiring the start up until we've got a regular rhythm going.


So... (from most recent post's D:S plus adaMada's in bold)

New Food D:S = 26: 40+2 = 26:42 = $62
New shield D:S = 16:19+1 = 16:20 = $80
New commerce D:S = 18:23+2 = 18:24 = $75

I know, and I apologize for not updating it when I posted the thread... I did plan to come back and add it in now, but I'm sorry all the same, and perhaps I shouldn't have posted at all if I didn't have time to do the necessary 'other stuff'... my apologies.

next person to post deals should update the above D:S, just like I did. it's not that hard, just add your supply to the supply total and your demand (if any) to the demand total. calculate new ratios. that's the new default price. anyone selling below the default prices at Market's closing (turn end) is almost guaranteed they'll sell.

alright? hope this helps.

Yes, I see.

Again, very sorry for not doing what I should have... I won't make that mistake again.

-- adaMada

EDIT: Nevermind about the fraction. Looking at the examples above, it's clearly rounded to the nearest whole $.

EDIT again: One question. If we want to change the price that we sell our food at, what should we do? Edit our post, or make a new one noting the change?

[Captain]

adaMada, sorry if I sounded harsh. I understand that it's a bit confusing. hope it doesn't detract from your playing experience in the $Mini-game. the only reason jumped on it so quick was in case someone else came along, and posted their offers based on faulty info. it'll all be smoothed out soon. I guess this is why we have our beta, to iron out wrinkles,