Eager to return

[deity]

That smallEarth scn is mid game btw. Dang made mods as we went along I think?

[Ljube]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
Ok, here is a list of everyone's availability so far. If anyone can add more times to this list (or players) it'd be excellent. All times USA Eastern.

Frank - Any weeknight except Thursday, and Sunday all day
Deity - Weds, Thurs, Fri or Sat night
Prom - Thurs night
Raz - Flexible
Ozzy - Any weeknight but after 9 on Friday, Sat night, not Sunday night.
Llejo - Weekends

I can host, but I'm on dial-up so I better not.

I suppose from the context that I'm Llejo.
Well, it's quite simple really.
In ICQ I'm Ljube which is a nickname based on my first name (Ljubisa).
My full name is Ljubisa Cvetkovic, hence my login here.

Yes, just like Ozzy said, I work all weekdays and USA weekday nights are European early mornings, so quite difficult.
But weekend is fine. For a game like this I'll adjust weekend activities.

The changes that increase the significance of useless wonders (there are quite a few of those) are simply great. I love the idea of Suez and Panama canals. We could extend this to other things including all useless/forbidden wonders. And yes, probably difficulty level lower than deity would spur expansion (in my current diplo I have only 8 cities and already suffering the effects of first unhappy citizen ).

[Ecthy]

Anyone fancy a game with me at some point? haven't played in some time, but I used to be infamous

Not... never got around to playing online too much actually... but I did have Ming sub for me (with Empress in betwween) at one point... that made me proud

[Rasputin]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
"but Arab tribe might be fun. PErhpas ancient arabs pre palestine, so the Canaanites or some such thing."

When I played the Arabs in HOTW3 I started at 96,58 and made my capitol Mecca. Bunch of desert there, but 3 specials, so its a decent spot. Would that work for you?

sound perfect , without actualy knowing where 96,58 is LOL , but i am here for the excitement , not for the winning ....

[Rasputin]

Originally posted by deity
I can do ANY USA Weds, THurs, Fri or Sat night (NOT this Fri though).

USA mornings are not good.

ozzy, I'll have a think about my locale.

Who's hosting?

Hi Dang

i got ADSL so i can host, but still scouring 2nd hand shops for a civ 2 CD .....

[Ecthy]

As long as Eyes isn't in the game as well or, even worse, hosts it...

I've got DSL too, BTW

[rah]

Ecthelion, you could post your interest here too.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=95594&pagenumber=4

[Ecthy]

I might, thanks. That is I WILL, if there's a lot of chitchat going on

[OzzyKP]

The Map

This is the map we are gonna be using. Same as HOTW2 except I closed the canals.

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by deity
So let's kich off this USA Sat night? Convince Prom and Empress that it's in their intersts, besides, it's my b'day And I'm p!ssed

I think we need to convince Frank too.

So what say you all? Will Saturday nights work? Who needs a social life anyways, play civ with us!

[Ecthy]

You can have a social life at friday night

[Rasputin]

this weekend no good. still no CD folks ... geez someone HELP !!!!!!!

wonders why he threw out Civv 2 disc .... ?? oh yeah civ 3

[OzzyKP]

Ok, looks like its unanmious that we go with the wonder linked canal event, increase ship movement, and play on Emperor. It also looks like we have a starting line up. Still need questions of time, civ and mod adjustments.

Deity--Can do Sat night, Africa somewhere, yes to Frank's mod, yes to open Australlia (i'm guessing)
Raz--Can do Sat night, Arabs, mod?, Australlia?
Ljube-- Can do Sat night, civ?, mod?, Australlia?
Ozzy--Can do Sat night, English, yes to mod, no to open Australlia
Prom--Saturday?, civ?, mod?, Australlia?
Frank --Saturday?, Chinese, yes to mod, Australlia?
Ecthelion --Saturday?, civ?, mod?, Australlia?

The mod is what Frank & Deity were discussing. Changing fundy to fascism, adding dreadnaughts, adding infantry, changing fanatics to stormtroopers, and I recommend changing theology to Islam and monotheism to Christianity.

I've also put the question out there about opening up Australlia for someone to pick. I think it was a bit unbalancing in HOTW2 to have Deity isolated down there while everyone else fought for territory on the mainland. And in HOTW3 Australlia was left empty. However I just remembered in HOTW3 we only had 6 players, so space could be tight in HOTW4. It can certainly be done though. 2 in Africa, 2 in Europe, 1 Mideast, and then China & India. Should be plenty of room for us to make a decent homeland, and then lots of open land available for colonization. I figure rubbing elbows is what makes Diplogames interesting anyways, if we have too much room there is the risk of becoming a boring building game.

I encourage y'all to vote no to Australlia. But since its 7 instead of 6 I wouldn't put of a fight if y'all wanted to open it.

People still need to pick what civ/character they want to be. Frank has chosen Chinese, I have chosen English, and Raz has chosen Arabs. Deity wants Africa somewhere, but I suspect he'd go to Australlia if the option were available. So we deffinately need someone in Eastern Europe (like Russians or Greeks or something). And another in Africa and Asia. The map is posted so give me your starting location too.

Fill in the blanks.

[OzzyKP]

Btw to help spark people's imagination regarding civ choosing.

Europe - Hungarians, Polish, Russians, Greeks, Serbs (Ljube?), Swedes, Norwegians, Ukranians

Africa - Zulu, Ethiopians, Mali, uhh..

Asia - Indians, Khmer (in Thailand), Mongols(moved a bit westward so as not to overlap Chinese)

[Ljube]

I'll be Serb (that's Europe). I'll supply the list of cities and titles and the leader's name will be Slobodan Milosevic.

Yes to mod.

No to Australia (sorry deity no birthday present this time).