No Science Succession: Revenge of the Space Luddites

[Cyrion]

Re: Re: Trade, trade, and more trade, yet again

Originally posted by SCG


here's a thought, instead of a no-science game, where the AI does practically no researching, how about a no-tax game, where we are required to keep taxes at 0%?

Wow, this would be tricky before Trade: no temple (maintenance...) unless the huts have been generous...

The Gardens (and all WOW!) would be more than useful!

[DrSpike]

Re: Re: Trade, trade, and more trade, yet again

Originally posted by SCG


here's a thought, instead of a no-science game, where the AI does practically no researching, how about a no-tax game, where we are required to keep taxes at 0%?

I don't think this would be that taxing (hur hur ), since you could just go early rep with no temples early on and keep the people happy with 40% luxuries. Later on trade would pay for whatever improvements you have.

[Cyrion]

Re: Re: Re: Trade, trade, and more trade, yet again

Originally posted by DrSpike
keep the people happy with 40% luxuries

Why didn't I think about that??

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Re: Re: Trade, trade, and more trade, yet again

Originally posted by SCG


here's a thought, instead of a no-science game, where the AI does practically no researching, how about a no-tax game, where we are required to keep taxes at 0%?

Sounds like it would lead to ICS - warriors keeping order in a lot of size 2 or 3 cities, and we'd make our money demanding cash from the cowering AI cities.

With another restriction or 2, it could make the game entertaining though

[SCG]

so we ban ICS (or set an upper city limit?). The idea i had was to make it an AC game since ovbiously people have won ICS via military conquest. maybe we could do like the early landing games and take away hut popping or set at villages only to cut down on gold via barbs?

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by SCG
so we ban ICS (or set an upper city limit?). The idea i had was to make it an AC game since ovbiously people have won ICS via military conquest. maybe we could do like the early landing games and take away hut popping or set at villages only to cut down on gold via barbs?

But for an AC game my point above is even more important. One could play an almost standard early landing game without breaching your tax restriction or the city restriction.

[Ben Kenobi]

I don't think this would be that taxing

That was truly bad, Dr. Spike.

I think this would make for a cool sxn game after this one is finished.

[SCG]

well, since Hydey hasn't posted anywhere since a week before we were interrupted, here's my final rounds - i got rather lazy - started sentrying freight and engineers and such so it's not really pretty, but I did land on AC in 1817 on turn 8

various freights
1808: germans discover communism, gold (d,380) to The Institute, kill a few barbs (get a vet howitzer), rush abou 40 freights. gold (d,362) to The Institute, Uranium (d,427) to Arkwright, Oil (xd, 166), Oil (xd,235) to Arkwright, Silver (d,264) to Cardiff, Wine (xd, 52), Gems (xd, 164) to Caernarfon - should be enough for fusion power with a about 150 beakers to spare. ok, evaluate space ship. 3 structurals, needs 30, needs 16 components and 3 modules. 45 freights, 3 structurals due to be completed this turn. 27 active freights. look into finishing SS parts with the 27 freight and current 11613 gold.

switch all cities to MP, freight or SS parts, deliver rest of freight to SS parts, complete several components - make note of pauling will have 30 shield production next turn after building freight.

1810: persians discover tactics, steal space flight (doh, well, will actually try and defend against that next turn), Tarsus goes into disorder? forgot to reset after freight delivery discover Fusion Power choose amphibious warfare

we now have 8, 8, 0, need 25, 8, 3
we have 4, 2, 0 finishing this turn, meaning we need to build 21, 6, 3 this turn - we have 43 freight and 12387 gold to complete 30 SS parts. - 23 cities building MP atm, so will need a little more rearranging. got sloppy, bought 1 too many components and wasted shields in 2 other cities... not too bad for playing about 15 mins a day

ok, had more than enough gold, so just kind of bought stuff (like Wounded Knee and Antioch)

1812: Celts discover Electricity, spanish get Steam Engine, various other stuff. Launch, arrival in 1817
Buy Hamburg, Sidon
1813: Soiux develop communism, disorder in a couple more cities(yeah, just trying to finish)
1814: purchace Munich (we have Eiffel Tower )
1815: Sioux sneak attack, Celts damage Cork, we have 2 unused uranium freights wandering around somewhere ,
1816: purchace Cologne, found one ->Uranium (d, 934) to Arkwright.
1817: AC

and the save the turn before in 1816

[Ben Kenobi]

Bravo!



The no-science luddites reach Alpha Centauri in 1817.

Although you never even used the other Uranium freight.

[SCG]

Originally posted by obiwan18
Although you never even used the other Uranium freight.

yeah, i know, i got lazy - i didn't really plan out the space ship and had 8 freights left over on the launch turn, and built 2 uranium freights the next turn but one turn just held down the 's' key (sentry or sleep) and hit return a couple times to speed things along and misplaced them. with some more serious planning i probably could have just about filled out the tech tree as i probably could have gotten uranium to recur in several cities and delivered them as well as the demanded gems and silk and wine overseas using our shipchains. I also rushbought a couple supermarkets so as to keep from micromanaging the cities that were xinning on alternate turns

[Scouse Gits]

Well done SCG! Good play by the team.

An 1817 landing with science @ 0% is a fine result. Thank you STYOM for setting up the game which was always fun to play.

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SG(2)

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Good game everyone - 1817 is not a bad landing date, considering we had the science slider set to 0, and limited government choices.

And good work, SCG, for grinding out those last turns - my last 8 turns were a long haul, so I imagine yours were as well

I'll let someone else start the next game - but I am tempted to disallow Einsteins in the next no science game I start

[Scouse Gits]

Well done SCG - good game all - who needs science?

SG[1]

[SCG]

Originally posted by Six Thousand Year Old Man
I'll let someone else start the next game - but I am tempted to disallow Einsteins in the next no science game I start

disallow as in 0 einstiens, so that we never discover a single tech? or disallow as in maximum of 1 einstein, so that we actually make discoveries after enough freight deliveries?

[rjmatsleepers]

Originally posted by Scouse Gits

An 1817 landing with science @ 0% is a fine result.
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SG(2)

It's a great result - well done all of you. It's embarassing to note that it's an earlier landing than I've managed in any of the early landing comparison games

RJM at Sleepers