No Science Succession: Revenge of the Space Luddites

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Originally posted by SCG
I try and use land routes when possible, partly because 3 movement on a road similar to 3 movement at sea (pre shipping wonders), and can often be more direct.

But the 2 primary reasons i try and use land routes is because movement is unlimited once we get railroad, and ships can end their turns in cities instead of leaving them in open water where they are vunerable, freeing up escort ships for other duties. If the land routes are already established, its much easier to continue with railroad.

Ah, but the German lands aren't railroaded yet and moreover, even if they were, moving off the ship uses up our Caravans' movement points - thus leaving them undefended for a turn.

I completely agree with your tactic re: land routes once we have Corporation and the AI has RR - unlimited movement within the AI lands straight off the ship is pretty decent.

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Play list

Originally posted by Six Thousand Year Old Man
1. obiwan18
2. SG(2)
3. Hydey
4. Vlad Antlerkov
5. Jrabbit
6. SCG
7. STYOM
8. SG[1]
9. Bloody Monk
10. La Fayette

Play 8 turns, pls.

[-Jrabbit]

Time to Git[1] moving!

[Scouse Gits]

White goods and growth

Space Luddite Game

Xinning temporarily abandoned in favour of a cash economy for growth and the provision of extensive white goods ...

1460 - Rush some white goods, rearrange workers

1480 - Couthouse in Rocket, Jenner, Canali; Celebration in Pauling; Aqueduct in Eye(9), Newcomen; MarketPlace in the Huntsman; Bessemer Xins; Germans, peace, Chemistry & maps; Persians, Chivalry & maps; Celts maps; Beads, Rocket-Cedar Creek, 84g; Silk(d), Bridgewater-Stony Lake, 258g; Beads, The Institute-Stony Lake, 38g; Barbarian Caravel sinks Caravel with two Caravans
1500 - Temple in Booth; Celebration in Jenner; MarketPlace in Berenice; Courthouse in Kay, Lion;
City Walls in Iron Duke; Bank in Hargreaves, Crompton; Bessemer off Xin; Trevithick Xins; Copper(d), Berenice-Leipzig,114g; Eye, Watt not What Xins;
1510 - Aqueduct in Rocket, Pauling; Library in Eye; Celebration in Hargreaves, Crompton, Newcomen; Physics->Magnetism; Bank in Bessemer; Population 13M; Germans, war - blow away the offending Crook; Gold, Arkwright-Berlin, 115g; hut-Wellington classic advanced tribe misses 4 special sweet spot by one square, but sweet spot is jungle so will settle for two whales;
1520 - Temple in Canali; MarketPlace in The Institute; Sewer System in Hargreaves, Crompton; Gems(d), Bessemer-Crompton, 69g; hut-Nomad on South Pole;
1530 - Library in the Huntsman; Courthouse in Bessemer; Bank in Newcomen; Salt, Bee-Arkwright, 26g; Coal(d), Bessemer-Stony Lake, 355g; Coal(d), Eye-Stony Lake, 285g; hut-100g;
1540 - Library in Rocket, Jenner, Lion; Magnetism->Gunpowder; Courthouse in Hargreaves; Sewer System in Bessemer; University! in Arkwright; Population 14M; Gold, Bessemer-Three Forks, 160g;
1550 - Library in Pauling; Silver, Trevithick-Arkwright, 25g; Germans, peace, Gunpowder & maps;
1560 - Steam Engine selected (Explosives not available); Courthouse in Berenice; Temple in Popiel; Library in Hargreaves;

Several cities are still celebrating and some have grown to their current maximum limit (no food surplus) take care not to Xin a city that cannot recover its food.

Enjoy, SG[1]

[-Jrabbit]

Busy, busy! Nice log, [1] -- looks very productive.

[Bloody Monk]

Looks good [1]

I have the game and will play tonight. Moving right along.

Monk

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Originally posted by Bloody Monk
Looks good [1]

I have the game and will play tonight. Moving right along.

Monk

Excellent And good turns [1]

[Bloody Monk]

Luddite Confirmation Game

The year is 1560 and the first impression is stunning. When last at the helm, a struggling Republic was launched with 15 cities and 910k Population. Now I find a vast and thriving trade power with 27 cities and 14.89m Population. Hats off to my fellow rulers.

It takes a while to study this beast and devise a plan. It is decided that cash will be plentiful so the plan of SG[1] to focus on white goods is to continue, with two differences. Luxuries are bumped to generate more WLT-Monk-D growth; and extensive Xinning with two groups of five cities will get research to 5 turns.

Except in the deep boondocks with no naval support, camels are jumped to a full third line as soon as the second line gets shields. Then tickled to finish in no more than three additional turns. White goods build one turn then completed.

1570...Gift tech to Sue; Steam Engine --> Explosives

1580...Courthouse in Stephenson and Portsmouth; 100g, Hut; Persians announce overnight they have discovered Explosives.

1590...Swap Persians for Explosives --> RR; Courthouse in Cambridge; 244g Dye(d) (Canali--3 Forks); gift Explosives around

1600...Courthouse in Institute; 50g Hut; Tesla founded at (101, 103); 135g Gems(d) (Arkwright--Iron Duke) with "jiggling" to unblock supplies in both.

1610...Insist Germs vamoose; they do...Railroad --> Metallurgy

1620...Harbor in Institute; Sewer in Bee; Colosseum in Bessie; Marketplace in Kay; Temple in Banting; Darwin Started in Bridgewater and specialists reset to taxmen and stop Xinning. Also, postpone deliveries until Darwin complete to not waste the bonus.

1630...Insist Germs leave again and they do; Germans now a Republic--maybe they will chill; 50g Hut; Sewer in Rocket; Aquaduct in Jenner; harbor in Popiel

1640...Courthouse in Banting; Bank in Bee; Gift RR to all; Complete Darwins!! Should get Industrial second and have offered Corporation. Population now 18.75 million.

Comments and Cautions

1) I have reset Arkwright to Eins to pick up the back end of Darwins. I have Lux at 50% to squeeze one more into Bessie. I have not set anyone to Xin, thinking that should start again next turn.

2) I alternated two groups of five cities in the Xin:
Group A--Trev'k, Hargrev, Crompton, Bee, and Jenner
Group B--Bessie, Watt not, Huntsmen, Eye, Rocket
Other choices are possible, too.

3)The ship chain is broken up to deliver to further out ports. We need more boats.

4) the Sue are Icy.

I doubt I will see another turn. This has been fun.

Monk

[Scouse Gits]

Nice turns Monk - I too doubt that I shall see this one again - strangely I too found it fun (a Rodent building Libraries in a NO Science game!)

SG[1]

[Bloody Monk]

Originally posted by Scouse Gits
...strangely I too found it fun (a Rodent building Libraries in a NO Science game!)

SG[1]

It is a wise RAR indeed who has learned the value of a pile of books as being more than a comfy nest.

Monk

[-Jrabbit]

Three techs in 8 turns and many lovely white goods... Nice work, Monk.

La Fayette, are you here?

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Play list updated...

We're on a roll!

1. obiwan18
2. SG(2)
3. Hydey
4. Vlad Antlerkov
5. Jrabbit
6. SCG
7. STYOM
8. SG[1]
9. Bloody Monk
10. La Fayette

Play 8 turns, pls.

[Bloody Monk]

Originally posted by -Jrabbit
Three techs in 8 turns and many lovely white goods... Nice work, Monk.

La Fayette, are you here?

Not to quibble, but, with Darwin's completed, it is effectively 5 techs, actually, 4.5, as SG[1] had half finished Steam. I was lucky in that the AI made a timely discovery of Explosives that I swapped for, telescoping the time for RR. Having Engineers/RR will really impact the game.

@La Fayette

Once we have The Corporation our delivery bonuses will ~ double. A decision to be made is whether to hold off or use the smaller delivery bonuses to achieve the Advance.

I think you will enjoy your turns

Monk

[La Fayette]

Originally posted by Bloody Monk

I think you will enjoy your turns
Monk

I let you know tomorrow...after having played the said turns

[La Fayette]

I did enjoy it

LF looks around with help of costly binoculars and notices that:
- the Empire looks great , but:
- very few cities are still growing through WLTMonkD,
- few (15) engineers are at work, though we have a RR network to build,
- few (9) transports are sailing and no shipchain is active.

Therefore LF decides that:
- the 'science ' slider will be set at 30 lux, 70 tax (= end of growth),
- about 10 new engineers will be educated,
- about 10 new transports will be rushbuilt in our rusty shipyards,
- a nice shipchain will be established between Bee and Kells.

Short log:
1650AD: DARWIN provides Metallurgy + Industrialization
_______Spice to Arkwright = 164g
_______Gold to Kells = 135g
_______Silver to Pasargadae = 214g
_______Silk to Pasargadae = 224g

1660AD: Hut gives barbs

1670AD: Cloth to CedarCreek = 224g
_______Salt to CedarCreek = 79g
_______Spice to CedarCreek = 64g
_______Wine to CedarCreeeek = 128g

1690AD: Silk to Kells = 345g
_______shipchain Bee-Kells completed

1700AD: The Corporation
_______Jewels to Caernarfon = 576g
_______Gold to Susa = 222g
_______Silk to Cardiff = 420g
_______Silver to Cardiff = 685g

1710AD: Electricity
_______Jewels to Persepolis = 696g
_______Wine to Persepolis = 254g
_______Wool to Armagh = 350g
_______Jewels to Caernarfon = 594g
_______Hut gives 50g

1720AD: Steel
_______Sneak attack by Sioux legion in Wellington (our musketman dies)
_______Sneak attack by Celtic frigate offshore Kells ( = 6 units lost )
_______Silk to Caernarfon = 522g
_______Wool to Bessemer = 424g
_______Gold to Persepolis = 200g
_______Hides to Kells = 170g
_______Wine to Kells = 210g
_______Hut gives advanced tribe ( = Pasteurville)

LF uses his costly binoculars again before retiring and notices that:
We should be able to maintain a rate of 1 tech/turn through rewarding deliveries around Kells...
but both Sioux and Celts dislike that and we are now at war with both of them ...
luckily we have discovered Steel: '7 moves' cruisers should be fun to use against Sioux ironclads and Celtic frigates