July NOMINATIONS

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

/me muses...

I'd like to run for President, ideally. The difficulty is that I'm on vacation for 2 weeks in July. While a V-P could play the turns in that period, it doesn't make sense to apply for a job and then disappear for half the turns.

I see shade is interested in the Presidency, anyway. So, I'll throw my hat into the ring for the city-planner role (and push my proposal to get cities to size 5 and Xin them). Just bear in mind that I'll be MI (hopefully ) A for the 2nd and 3rd week of July; someone else will need to step in.

[Ben Kenobi]

So, I'll throw my hat into the ring for the city-planner role (and push my proposal to get cities to size 5 and Xin them).

Well, I could fill in for that time, since by then I should be settled, but I'll have to wait and see.

[Bob_Smurf42]

Could you update the list, HTower?

BB

[atawa]

* Sparrowhawk nominates Atawa for President

Thanks for the vote of confidence

But after thinking about it I think this is not the time to step up to the post.

My personal life is kinda hectic right now and I cannot commit to this responsibility at the moment.

I'm going to sit back for at least a month and enjoy the life as an Apolytonian citizen.

I would support Shade if he would run for president

[Sparrowhawk]

/me is concerned about the future of our "democracy"

I beleive the basis of a democratic system is allowing every person one vote, and the knowledge that by making use of that vote that an individual can have an effect upon the future of the organization they are voting on (in this case our Kingdom).

Unfortunately, this system requires that there be options to vote for and choose between. It seems that so far this month, as it was last month, there will only be one person running for each of the available positions. I beleive that should our "democracy" continue in this way, that it will lead to anarchy, and rather then one person, one vote, we will be in a situation where there are no options, and our vote is without meaning.

Not wanting to point out a problem, without a solution, I propose 3 solutions, for all of the citizens, ministers, and President to work together to help resolve this problem.
1) Increase the number of citizens, and with it, the number of votes, and hopefully the number of participants running in the monthly elections.
2) Encourage our current citizens to run for office. Perhaps more importantly, not discouraging anyone from running for office (and while I don't think this happens, it easily could).
3) Simplify the jobs of current positions and clarify responsibilities. If anyone is reluctant to commit to the position becuase of time constraints, is there not some way to ease the load so to speak. For instance I have suggested that duties be clarified and split up, to keep from overburdening any one position, and also to keep anyone from duplicating what has already been done.

Any further thoughts on this. I am still new to this concept, and perhaps am overstating this as a problem, but I would be very encouraged if we were able to get at least 2 people running for every office.

Respectively submitted,
Sparrowhawk
Citizen

Note: Excuse the seriousness of the post, I am actually enjoying this game, and can get caught up in "role playing". Hopefully this "game" doesn't get a serious as I make the above sound. As I think Hydey recently put it "You often make me laugh, as do many others on this site, which is why I keep coming back" (paraphrasing, but I quite agree)

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Originally posted by Sparrowhawk 1) Increase the number of citizens, and with it, the number of votes, and hopefully the number of participants running in the monthly elections.
2) Encourage our current citizens to run for office. Perhaps more importantly, not discouraging anyone from running for office (and while I don't think this happens, it easily could).
3) Simplify the jobs of current positions and clarify responsibilities. If anyone is reluctant to commit to the position becuase of time constraints, is there not some way to ease the load so to speak. For instance I have suggested that duties be clarified and split up, to keep from overburdening any one position, and also to keep anyone from duplicating what has already been done.

Well, my thoughts...
1) - there's no limit on the number of citizens, AFAIK. Anyone who wants to be a citizen, is a citizen. Even people who aren't citizens can't be prevented from voting in the polls, anyway.

2) - I can only think of one person who was discouraged from running. But then, I came in late to Demo #2 and missed Demo #1 entirely. I think we have few candidates because we have a lot of positions, some of which overlap (e.g. city planner, science, and trade minister tend to have a lot of common interests) and not enough people who want to do the work (or have the time to).

3) - I'm quite happy formulating policy, making polls, debating which strategy is best, etc. I'm not a screenshot expert. Maybe we need deputy ministers?

[H Tower]

Is it agreable to STYOM and Obiwan18 to be put together on the ballot to reflect they'd be sharing the position, trading off when the other is out of town?


STYOM: your point #2, we don't have a trade minister anymore since we aren't using camels. As for #3, I've usually filled that capacity, but i've been super busy lately, now that I'm home and working. I'm rarely at my computer anymore with time for screenshot projects

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Originally posted by H Tower
Is it agreable to STYOM and Obiwan18 to be put together on the ballot to reflect they'd be sharing the position, trading off when the other is out of town?

Fine by me... Put both our names on the ballot (if obiwan concurs) - the second place finisher suffers the indignity of being the deputy minister! Unless the banana wins.

As to your other point - true about there being no trade minister - but in previous games, there was overlap between trade/science/cityplan. And in this game, the city planner and the war minister have overlap: the war minister's units abroad impinge on the cityplanners production capabilities, in a sense, and in turn, the cityplanner controls the flow of new units to the frontlines. So overlap is inevitable. And that makes the role of the minister more complicated - sometimes you can't do what's needed, simply because you haven't got the authority.

[Ben Kenobi]

Fine by me... Put both our names on the ballot (if obiwan concurs) - the second place finisher suffers the indignity of being the deputy minister!

Naw, I don't mind being the deputy, if STYOM will be the sheriff....

[mrboo123]

After thinking about it, I'll run for Presaidnt again!

[atawa]

Originally posted by 123john321
After thinking about it, I'll run for Presaidnt again!

Thanks, I needed that

[Hydey]

Originally posted by 123john321
After thinking about it, I'll run for Presaidnt again!

well done John
The more people willing to run for possitions the better.

where has War4ever gone, he did say he would look at running for something this time around.

[H Tower]

Originally posted by Hydey
where has War4ever gone, he did say he would look at running for something this time around.

probably hiding until the elections begin

He even posted in a different forum 2 minutes ago

[MrWhereItsAt]

/me was inspired by Sparrowhawk's post, especially since he can remember giving a similar speech frequently in the Civ3DG

Hang it all. Put me down for, oh, Foreign Minister or something.

I don't have a lot of time but I could do this job if elected.

[Hydey]

yes yes yes, more nominations are good ,good,good.