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  • #61
    It is something for discussion. I would avoid putting doctors as long as possible. And here an alternative:
    Make social choices:
    Eco: 20
    Psych: 50
    Labs: 30
    for this turn 2137.
    In 2138 we will have enough to go Free Market, then adjust this social setting.
    Doctors give no nutrients, and nutrients we need for growth. what do you think?

    Maybe in addition:

    Doctor:
    +2 Psych

    Worker (e.g. in forest)
    +1 nut
    +2 min
    +1 EC

    worker gives twice as much
    Last edited by Mart; September 20, 2004, 11:52.
    Mart
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    • #62
      So, our research will be delayed for a turn or two extra, ain't it?

      I'll check myself...

      And sth else... are we going to make a bid for FM, or rather Planned?

      The first may annoy the Gaians...
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      He who knows himself is enlightened.
      -- Lao Tsu

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      • #63
        We would need to evaluate what is better Planned or FM?
        Mart
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        • #64
          Planned will increase our crawler output and growth... FM our research. The only faction who runs FM now are the Morgans.

          Btw, just saw on Eventis that the Gaians are interested in knowing our past social settings. Ouro wants to know if (and when) we have run Planned before. I asked why they want that info.

          And they have choosen Doc:Mob as new research project!!
          He who knows others is wise.
          He who knows himself is enlightened.
          -- Lao Tsu

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          • #65
            (on Doc: Mob)

            The social settings weren't part of the treaty
            I'm not conceited, conceit is a fault and I have no faults...

            Civ and WoW are my crack... just one... more... turn...

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            • #66
              Yes. The social settings were not included. And I think we may go FM if we decide to in 2138.

              We may sign a Social Treaty, if Gaians wish to do it. We may discuss it first here. I have to think about it.

              Gaians:
              Want: Green
              Do not want: Free market

              Data Angels:
              Want: Democracy
              Do not want: Power

              We may be in loosing position here. At least in the beginning of the game.
              Mart
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              • #67
                True, but with as little as we have at the moment to go off of, diplomatically speaking they shouldn't mind. I mean, if they want to RP an AI reaction, wars aren't fought over SE choices for quite a while yet, AFIK.
                I'm not conceited, conceit is a fault and I have no faults...

                Civ and WoW are my crack... just one... more... turn...

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                • #68
                  So I take it the two of you are in favour of FM. Sounds decided then.
                  He who knows others is wise.
                  He who knows himself is enlightened.
                  -- Lao Tsu

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                  • #69
                    2137 turnreport

                    I choose to set the sliders at 20/30/50.

                    That way we have sufficient energy income for changing SE next turn, finish the research and quelling all drones except the one for Verres' Loft. That one can be quelled next turn by the rover next to it.
                    Nothing else to report I think.
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                    He who knows himself is enlightened.
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                    • #70
                      2138

                      This is the situation.
                      For next turn we need to decide whether to keep our current SE settings, going Free Market or going Planned.

                      Votes please (for the record)
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                      He who knows himself is enlightened.
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                      • #71
                        Looks good.

                        So what's the pros/cons of FM vs Planned at this point besides the greenies becoming meanies if we go FM?
                        I'm not conceited, conceit is a fault and I have no faults...

                        Civ and WoW are my crack... just one... more... turn...

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                        • #72
                          For Planned, our pop growth increases, and our crawlers will be finished sooner, but we might expect more b-drones. We're pretty much countered for that atm with the psych allocation, but there will come more then we can handle with the new base(s) coming up in 3-5 turns. Faster growth also means were going to need doctors sooner or else research at turtle speed.

                          Free Market. Current Psych allocation is normally be sufficient to keep the drones happy, we'll have faster research, native life is more likely to come our way. So finishing our sensor grid would be most paramount then.
                          He who knows others is wise.
                          He who knows himself is enlightened.
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                          • #73
                            One thing about FM is that we will no longer be able to afford leaving a base without a unit. Worms are very likely to get to one of them.
                            Mart
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                            • #74
                              'kay, turn has arrived, I played a bit with the SE numbers.

                              To have a 'stable' society:
                              Free Market: 30% econ/40% psych/30% lab gives us 15 energy/year and a 13 year research time
                              Planned: 30% econ/30% psych/30% lab gives us 9 energy/year and a 17 year research time.
                              All production and growth increases as well.
                              Simple: 30% econ/30% psych/ 40% lab gives us 10 energy/year and a 16 year research time.
                              Of course we can go inefficient and increast the lab slider with 10%, taken from the econ slider.

                              Tech choices were Doc:Mob, Soc Psych, Field Modulation and erm... Polymorphic Software I think.

                              So, what economic choice do we follow?
                              He who knows others is wise.
                              He who knows himself is enlightened.
                              -- Lao Tsu

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                              • #75
                                Actually Planned does not look that bad. We will need only ethical calculus and there goes pop boom.

                                One remark- if in Planned psych is going to be 30% (and maybe 40% too) Kahlua probing may be in danger of drone riots. IIRC pop growth is before production, thus drone riots may occur. Doeas it mean we will not have that colony pod there? In planned mineral costs go down, so the pod will be next turn. In that case maybe a doctor there for this one turn only? Or increase psych? Unless I am wrong and there will be no drone riots. I would need to check it, but I have no time at the moment.
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