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I've a nice game going with extensive notes. I expect to win it. I'll see if I can cobble together a decent AAR. I have not compare mine to the civfanatics sucession game. It is taking a long time between turns.
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Good luck! I'm looking forward to your AAR.Originally posted by jimmytrick
I've a nice game going with extensive notes. I expect to win it. I'll see if I can cobble together a decent AAR. I have not compare mine to the civfanatics sucession game. It is taking a long time between turns.The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.
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SID, Beta 1.15.
It’s 1750BC and I end my turn with writing due in 1. After all AI moves the science advisor appears, tells me we learned to write, and asks what I want to research next. I ask for the Big Picture and contact all other civs to verify that none had writing yet. They didn't and I didn't trade it to them since I wanted a head start on Literature. I chose Literature to research and closed the advisor screens. At that point, with no other AI moves occurring, every AI had Writing and other changes consistent with AI tech trading. That strikes me as odd but perhaps I don’t understand the tech queue and trade system?The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.
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At one time they put out a fix that was to prevent the AI form trading due the players turn. Sounds very fishy, do you think one researched it or may stoled it? Did any have an embassy witrh you? I find it is easy to steal before espionage if you have the cash. Did you have a courthouse at the time?Comment
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Theft...hmmm. With the situation I described the AI would have had to steal it during my turn and that seems odd as well. Since I was the first to writing I had no courthouses or embassies. Also, I’m not sure if I have a save game of it but I think this same thing happened another time I got writing first with Beta 1.15. IIRC that's twice in the 4 or 5 games I've gotten to writing and in some of those I wasn't the first to get it.Originally posted by vmxa1
At one time they put out a fix that was to prevent the AI form trading due the players turn. Sounds very fishy, do you think one researched it or may stoled it? Did any have an embassy witrh you? I find it is easy to steal before espionage if you have the cash. Did you have a courthouse at the time?The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.
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Now I am wondering. I tend to not do much trading so I often will not even check after I get writing. Only if I want to trade, so I don't know if I had had this occur. Maybe worth posting in the bug thread. I am usin 1.15 as well.Comment
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Yup...maybe I'll post it there if nobody comes up with an answer overnight. Thanks for your imput Vmxa1. I'm sure I'll be talkin to you again.Originally posted by vmxa1
Now I am wondering. I tend to not do much trading so I often will not even check after I get writing. Only if I want to trade, so I don't know if I had had this occur. Maybe worth posting in the bug thread. I am usin 1.15 as well.The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.
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I don't think it's a bug. The AI research phase actually comes after yours.
So what probably happened is the AI's were all researching Writing themselves, possibly to get it the same turn or a little later. Then your research completes, you break into diplomacy during your research phase using the big picture, leave the big picture, and then the AI's research phase begins. They complete Writing (and it's going to be cheaper for them because you and any AI's before them have it) during that phase, then your production and their production phases. Only then does 'your turn' start.Comment
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Thanks Aeson;Originally posted by Aeson
I don't think it's a bug. The AI research phase actually comes after yours.
So what probably happened is the AI's were all researching Writing themselves, possibly to get it the same turn or a little later. Then your research completes, you break into diplomacy during your research phase using the big picture, leave the big picture, and then the AI's research phase begins. They complete Writing (and it's going to be cheaper for them because you and any AI's before them have it) during that phase, then your production and their production phases. Only then does 'your turn' start.
The system you describe seems to match my observations. I know one AI has contacted no one but me and could have researched Writing that turn. The other two AIs on this tiny map are in contact and it seems that one got Writing and traded it and about 44 gold for Mathematics. The advantage the AI has in research may mean that the boost they get from researching a previously discovered tech pushes them to finish the same turn more often on tiny map SID than would be the case on lower levels and/or larger maps. I think I'm going to move my attempts to larger maps and see if that helps.Last edited by Drachen; January 24, 2004, 17:34.The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.
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We are just starting a PBEM Napoleonic Scenario, with 6 human players against a Sid level Napoleon. There is also King Gustav of Sweden who we locked into an alliance with Bonaparte.
This looks to be a good game, so I though I would get in and have a game of the scenario in one player mode on Sid.
well my British way of life has changed quite a bit since starting. I got in early and formed alliances all over the shop, traded goods for gold, and dug my troops in awaiting upgrades from Musketeers to RedCoats etc.
What is going on...? Alliances have slipped through my fingers, French troops have stormed my border garrisons, countries that would not enter into a MPP have turned into blood enemies, and I fear for the remains of my once all powerful, all mighty fleet...
Ok it is harder, and I feel I will not survive... but I'm loving the challenge...
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The setting: Beta 1.15, SID, Standard map, wet, warm, old, sedentary barbs, default rules, lowest aggression, Netherlands facing Inca, Maya, Ottomans, Chinese, Sumerians, and Celts. This is one less opponent than usual. It’s 720AD and I’m researching Chemistry. I thought I’d be able to trade the Ottomans Economics for something but somehow they got both that and Democracy last turn. The Sumerians got the Theory of Evolution about two turns ago and are well advanced along with the Chinese and Maya. The Celts and Inca are well behind on tech. My reputation is intact and I’m on good terms with all but the Inca who had a city, Ica, on my Southern border which I had to secure and so I finagled an Incan declaration of war and took it. I’m hoping for a GL from some low grade conflict with them and then I’ll probably move on the Celts so that I have an invasion path to China and Summeria. The problem I’m having is in trying to figure out how to prevent the tech leaders from winning space race or diplomacy before I’m strong enough to get to them.
So now what?Last edited by Drachen; January 30, 2004, 15:15.The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.
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Should I try to play the Rise of Rome campaign on Sid level with aggression highest, or would that just be a waste of time?
Just played Fall of Rome on Monarch, damn annoying that Rome never Fell. No AI aggression on the AI Rome, just me (Vandal) who threw a couple of stings...
If the AI aggression had been on full and the level at Sid, the AI players should gang up on Rome no matter if it was man or machine, but alas that's not the way it works...My words are backed with hard coconuts.Comment
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You can cut of any access to a require resource such as Uranium.
This is probably the one that is likely to be some what rare.
If you get nuke.......
Use spies to foil the construction.Comment
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Remember they now have to research farther down the tech tree, so you have more time.Comment
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I haven't tried the Rise of Rome campaign but Paddy's comments about his campaign caught my attention. But…I actually think you should try it… although it may just be that I don’t want to be the only one around here getting my head handed to me by the AI.Originally posted by ThePlagueRat
Should I try to play the Rise of Rome campaign on Sid level with aggression highest, or would that just be a waste of time?
Just played Fall of Rome on Monarch, damn annoying that Rome never Fell. No AI aggression on the AI Rome, just me (Vandal) who threw a couple of stings...
If the AI aggression had been on full and the level at Sid, the AI players should gang up on Rome no matter if it was man or machine, but alas that's not the way it works...
The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.
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