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Agreed. I suggested Dutch earlier as a 'cooking' Civ on a wet archipelago map. The best chance also lies with a larger map. To Theseus I'd say that those settings aren't ridiculous. 
Cook and be merry.
Cook and be merry.
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BTW, I was wrong about number of AI's, there's only four on this one
I was wondering why so many islands were empty
Is there any way I can view the game from the AI's standpoint? Just to see what Japan does with all it's leaders.Comment
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You can play the game in debug mode. There is some talk about making it possible to enable debug after the fact.
Be aware that it is painful to have to watch all the movement for all the civs. Barb hunting alone can take a fair amount of time on larger map. It can't be turned off so you may end up quiting the game.Comment
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That's why I've never really bothered.........I can always read the comments of people that have time to watch the AI.
Debug enabled within an existing game would be cool........I hope they implement it.Comment
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Originally posted by vmxa1
I choose not to as the FP and GPT bug were not fixed at that time and I was trying to avoid it.
what are the FP and GPT bug, i know the FP is foreign palance(i hope anyways) but whats wrong with it and is it fixed now...?
and how do you get the debug mode, is it in the editor..?Last edited by Footballgod128; January 12, 2004, 16:28.Comment
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FP is forbidden palace, you know the big one in Beijing
It's supposed to work as a second palace, only cheaper to build.
You can build a 2nd core of very productive cities around it.
It works like a charm unless you've beta patched you're Conquests, in which case I hear it's not reducing corruption like it should.
I'm waiting for a proper patch and am playing it out of the box for now.
Don't know about debug, haven't tried that yet.Comment
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FP out of the box certainly does not work like a charm, because of the rank bug. And if you are playing unpatched C3C the gpt bug is going to make life tricky when the AI start trading techs amongst themselves for large amounts of cash.Comment
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Yes it is an editor option.Comment
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The Gold Per Turn bug is basically that a trade for gpt gets paid twice. So the AI will be trading a lot at Sid or any of the top levels and will soon have so much money it can rush buy structures and bury you.Originally posted by Footballgod128
what are the FP and GPT bug, i know the FP is foreign palance(i hope anyways) but whats wrong with it and is it fixed now...?
The Forbidden Palace bug is complex. It boils down to they wanted to change the RCP issue from PTW. RCP is Ring City Placement. You would have cities rank by their distance from the capitol. The ones with the same ring or distance from the palace were treated the same in terms of corruption. This allowed people to place cities in a way that reduced corruption in many cities.
The correction was a failure in C3C and they introduced a change in 1.12 to address it. The change reduced the corruption issue involving the FP, but not enouh to placate the masses. They are tweaking it now and we shall see how it finally is resolved.Comment
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The proble with these two issue is exacerbated as you move up the levels. The boost the AI gets are quite large and you would try to compensate by building your empire better and smarter and manage the cities better.
It is had to do any of that when you cannot have very many cities without them being so corrupt that they will produce next to nothing. The gpt hurts as you will not be much of a partcipant in trades, especially early in the game. So it becomes another bonus for the AI.
At least that is my perspective.Comment
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Why not find Sid Meier on the net instead, and play against him?
He'd probably be on Freeciv or something, don't you think?My words are backed with hard coconuts.Comment
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So playing unpatched kinda offsets the cooking I did on this game?
I just don't use like using beta patches, and what's a little trade bonus between AI's anyways, SID is supposed to be hard isn't it.Comment
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Anybody care to play along with or offer suggestions as to where to go from here? It’s Beta 1.12, 110 BC, SID, Archipelago, and standard map. I’m France playing against Summeria and Babylon. Least aggression and only conquest or elimination victory allowed. I got the Pyramids and Great Library. I’m a few turns from Banking and they’re still in the middle ages w/about a four tech lead. My plan was to hide for as long as I could and use the Library to catch up. I had hoped to land techs well after Education but the AI’s rex was too fast and I met them just at the end of the ancient age. More opponents on a huge map might be better for a Library slingshot but the resource scarcity gets worse as maps get larger so...? The second part of my plan was to land the Pyramids and use the growth to rex over an entire land mass without competing cities. I ended up with about 90% of my Island. The last part of my plan was, and still is, to play nice until artillery and rail at which point human judgment becomes a significant counter to SID advantages. I plead guilty to cooking the settings and as a first step at SID I think it’s fair. Heck…I would have broiled the settings if I could.
The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.
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You sir, are found guilty. Your sentence: to play your game out to a conquest win.Originally posted by Drachen
I plead guilty to cooking the settings and as a first step at SID I think it’s fair. Heck…I would have broiled the settings if I could.
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Who says crime doesn't pay!Originally posted by DrSpike
You sir, are found guilty. Your sentence: to play your game out to a conquest win.
The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.
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