Your SID level experiences

[Drachen]

Originally posted by Theseus

Tell you what, v, I was gonna play one of the two demi games, but if you post a Sid start as Scandy I'll jump up and try that with you.

* Theseus mutters: WTF am I getting myself into?

Welcome aboard Theseus! I hope you will get started on some Sid games as we could use the help and it’s kinda fun really: almost like a different game.

[Drachen]

Originally posted by vmxa1


One more shot with the Vikes on a std map. I drew an island with America. It was off to a bad start. I looked up and they had a city next to my capitol. We soon had a war and got them to give up 300 gold + IW.

I had went on an all archer build nearly from the start. No granary yet due to wars. They even cut the road to my cow.


Army is Archer Archer Spear so it kills anything it sees.

I took your tact and raced to Lit via Phil. US is making most of the wonders.

I got a second war when we both tried to settle in a location that I have autorazed. They had a left over unit in my land so I called them out. They bit and I took down the settler combo.

Must have killed 30 units so far by using traps and terrain. The 0 range is paying off. I can't make the second army as I do not have enough cities yet.


I have two GL's so far in this war. All contacts.

I think Scandy could be a good civ at Sid archipelago. You might consider downloading Moonsinger’s Map Generating utility to help you find a good start. Good luck!

[realpolitic]

Originally posted by Doc
Culture flipping is to be sure an issue. Thing is, you spend so long building up an army that can make a dent in theirs that you are way way behind in culture. Flips back are one thing, but I too have seen native cities flip in a Deity game where I started close to the Romans.

One [rushed] early temple can keep you afloat culturally at Diety for a while, possibly immediately after you build your first settler. Then enough archers to make a dent in another civ. If you take 1/3 of his cities in the first war, you probably won't be close enough to the capital to worry about a culture flip. Then prepare for another attack in 20 turns. I'm currently playing with a mod that would make Sid even tougher, but maybe this will help you.

The other possibilty for winning at Sid that it gives you the ability to mod the program so you have more choices, even if it also causes the AI to make more mistakes.

[vmxa1]

Let me say that I do not need Sid to be any harder.

[ErikM]

Iroquois on the March - part V

We have left Hiawatha in 690BC, when he just put fledging Ottoman Empire out of their misery. However, it was still to0 early to smoke the Peace Pipe. We will remind our readers (if any ) that Iroquois were also at war with Sumerians for the last thousand years or so. Until now, everything was quiet on the Sumerian front, as Sumerians were mostly fighting Iroquois glorious allies, Zulus and recently deceased Ottomans. After Ottomans' defeat, however, Iroquois acquired a direct border with Sumerian Empire, and hordes of Enkidu Warriors started to pour into Iroquois lands.

Fortunately for Hiawatha, due to the nature of the terrain, Sumerians mostly tried to attack fair, even if completely corrupt, city of Edirne through a narrow pass through Southern Marshes and former Ottoman capital Istanbul through a treacherous mountain pass. Thus, Hiawatha ordered his brave swordsman to block these approaches, bombarding everything that moves nearby with captured Ottoman catapults. Meanwhile, Hiawatha started a crush program of basic military training in Iroquois corelands, using spare cash liberally to recruit fearsome Mounted Warriors in cities with barracks and to construct barracks in some of his more productive cities. Hiawatha counted on the old prophecy that foretold a time of great prosperity to happen in Iroquois lands once the first Mounted warrior defeats an enemy in battle.

Hiawatha was also mighty concerned about Iroquois cultural accomplishments, which so far were limited to the Great Library in Niagara Falls and a couple of temples rushed in Allegheny and Izmit to provide Iroquois with an access to Iron (as Iroquois shamans unanimously agreed that without aforementioned temples the only known Iron source will not be legally considered as belonging to Iroquois and mining it illegally would be unthinkable). Thus, whenever military situation permitted, Hiawatha generously paid outrageous overtime rates to construct a few libraries in record time. New libraries were mostly supplied with just two books: "Everything You Ever Wanted to Know about Horseback Riding but were Afraid to Ask" and "Sumerians - the Evil Empire".

Slowly - oh so slowly - Iroquois Mounted Forces gathered strength, but Sumerians were so many! Were it not for a favorable terrain and some help from valiant Zulus, Iroquois defenders would surely be overwhelmed:

[ErikM]

Iroquois on the March - part V

Finally, in 570BC, Hiawatha decided that stars favor a counteroffensive. Just as foretold, as soon as one of Hiawatha's Mounted Braves won a combat against a sneaky Sumerian Archer, it was as if a great Manito himself blessed Iroquois workers with an immense energy. Crafts flourished, commerce increased, and Haiwatha proclaimed: "It's War Time!!!"

Best Iroquois cities were switched into a full-time military buildup:

[ErikM]

Iroquois on the March - part V

What follows are brief extracts from Hiawatha's Diaries:

570BC.
Golden Age starts! Salamanca is put on non-stop MW production (1MW/turn). Two more cities are capable of producing MWs every second term.

The Gem city of Bursa captured after a bloody assault that cost us several unupgraded swordsman [we forgot to mention that in 610BC Iroquois have learned Feaudalism from Sumerians and Aztecs using their Great Library]. On the brighter side, one of our elite swordsman produced a Great Leader, which was immediately used to build an army in just captured Bursa. Due to lack of capable reinforcements, an army was loaded with a single upgraded medieval infantry. Two slaves captured.

550BC.
Rest/fend off Sumerian counterstrikes/gather reinforcements in Bursa. Sold Feudalism to Celts for 36gpt. Celts are at war against Mongols. Zulus destroy one of Sumerian cities. Our settlers are sent to claim this land.

530BC.
Same old, same old. Sold Feudaulism to English for 6gpt+some petty cash.

510BC.
Sumerian forces counterattacking Bursa are decisively defeated. Troops advance on Kish. Our precious army is equipped with 3 Medieval Infantries. Meanwhile, our psychotic military advisor reports that, for the first time in Iroquois history, we are of "average strength" in comparison with Sumerians. Everybody else are still our superiors. Sold Republic to Aztecs for $112+3gpt.

490BC.
Assault on Kish - phase 1. Man they have a lot of Enkidu Warriors. Get another leader, which is saved for future use. Sumerian forces in the Edirne sector are finally cleared; we start a slow advance on Sumer.

470BC.
Kish falls with some help with Zulu. Captured 4 workers. We are strong vs. Sumerians. Zulus destroy another Sumerian city. Rush Heroic Epic in Kish.

We have a nice division of labor with Zulus: they do the fighting, and we capture Sumerian cities :

[ErikM]

Iroquois on the March - part V

450BC
Troops rest. Aztecs demand 58g. Request denied and they declare war. We are sceptical about Aztec capabilities to wage an offensive war and we can use some war happiness . Army group East deploys near Sumer, reading for an assault. Bought 4 workers from Zulu for Currency.

430BC.
Sumer falls, and we capture The Oracle. Military advisor reports that we are "of average strength" vs. Zulus and Mongols, woo-hoo! Bought another worker from Zulu for Dyes.

410BC.
Rest/consolidate.

390BC.
Our troops advance on Sumerian capital, Ur. Army fortifies; mounted warriors start an assault using an army for cover. Killed 7 Enkidu warriors, lost one swordsman, one MI, and one MW. Another leader.

370BC.
Lost another MW to Sumerian counter-attack. They moved out three archers from Ur, idiots Assault on Ur continues, and finally...

[ErikM]

Iroquois on the March - part V

[ErikM]

Iroquois on the March - part V

Ur contains the following:

The Pyramids;
The Temple of Artemis;
The Hanging Gardens;
Sun Tzu.

Rush Forbidden Palace in Ur.

Acquire Monotheism and Engineering from the GL.

Capture Atza-something from Aztecs (they built it on the spot of destroyed Sumerian city).

All in all, 370BC was a very good year

350BC.
Rest/consolidate. The outcome of Sumerian wars is no longer in doubt, but Sumerians still boldly land a couple of EWs in my core lands

330BC.
Advance on the last two Sumerian cities. Sold Monotheism to Mongols for 14gpt+11g, and to English for 9gpt+18g. (Celts don't have any money). English declare war on the Mongols. *sigh* Celts will eat them all alive. But at least they are not researching as they are constantly fighting.

Sumerian Last Stand:

[ErikM]

Iroquois on the March - part V

310 BC:
Capture Lagash (6 workers), Umma (2 workers). Got another leader.

[ErikM]

Iroquois on the March - part V

310 BC Victory Status:

[ErikM]

Iroquois on the March - part V

310 BC Powergraph:

[ErikM]

Iroquois on the March - part V

310 BC map:

[ErikM]

Iroquois on the March - part V

310 BC Economic Outlook:

Cities: 25
Workers: 24
Slaves: about 40

Military:
Warriors: 3
Archers: 4
Swordsman: 7
MIs: 8
MWs: 27
Trebuchet: 2
Cats: 4
Curragh: 2

Income: see screenshot.