Ancient Empires #2

[Addled Platypus]

Originally posted by SlowThinker
Platypus, did you open the Demo window?

no

[Addled Platypus]

popped advanced city

http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php?file=22570_ha_b3360.hot

[SlowThinker]

Originally posted by Platypus Rex

Originally posted by SlowThinker
Platypus, did you open the Demo window?

no

This is a serious problem. The common persuasion is workers may be replaced by the Demo window only. Maybe the .hot format causes a new problem. We should try to detect how it could happen.
Plat, can you replay your 3370 turn and post it? Or even better to look at Greek position after your turn and to check if Mycenae works forest or fish (the original placement was forest but when I started Greek turn it was replaced to fish).


RobRoy, the storm dissapeared.

[SlowThinker]

Peaster, your boyfriend is here, you should answer...

[RobRoy]

Originally posted by SlowThinker
This is a serious problem. The common persuasion is workers may be replaced by the Demo window only. Maybe the .hot format causes a new problem. We should try to detect how it could happen.
Plat, can you replay your 3370 turn and post it? Or even better to look at Greek position after your turn and to check if Mycenae works forest or fish (the original placement was forest but when I started Greek turn it was replaced to fish).

Agree, if it wasn't an accidental viewing of the Demographics screen (F11), something is wrong. We need to identify what.

But Plat, are you possitive you didn't view the Demographics screen, or even touch F11 by accident? That seems far more likely than a hotseat bug.

In case you weren't aware of it, viewing the Demographics screen, even briefly, causes the AIs (i.e., everyone but the current player) to reset which tiles are worked in every city. It's just like clicking in the center tile from your city view, for each city. In this case, ST was probably maximizing production to meet the barbarian invasion and had a pop working the forest. Moving that pop to the default tiles (probably the fish) would've resulted in two less shields. Worst case scenario would've been two units eliminated due to an inability to maintain them.

If you're sure it wasn't the Demographics screen, please try to redo your turn exactly as you did before and see if you can replicate the anomaly.

But since it's just a test and ST is willing to go forward, Pal, you're up. Or maybe Peaster can return the favor and do the Assyrians if you're busy or out.

[Peaster]

Bostero/Dario - I already solved this mystery in another thread! Your flag gives you away. Why don't you join this PBEM ? I think we only need one more player, if Straybow is still with us.

[Peaster]

Thanks, Palaiogolus, for playing Egypt. I played Assyria for you this turn (hope you don't mind). Two farmers had orders that seemed odd to me ("Road" and "Go To") maybe from the same glitch afflicting SlowThinker - or maybe you gave the orders?

IIRC one Egyptian unit also had such orders. A barb boat has been spotted near Egypt, but no invaders have embarked yet.

No diplomacy or tech trades attempted by either civ this turn.

[SlowThinker]

Is Dario Darius, smith&wesson and rodina?

[SlowThinker]

Barbs enslaved in Persia.

A barb vengeance in Greece:
Greeks lost 2 skirmishers near Argos in order to kill a BI on Plains, only 3rd skirm got vet status.
Near Sparta a Bat Ram was destroyed but the winner will be killed soon...

[Addled Platypus]

cant rule out accidently doing f11, most likely by mouse though

is that just as bad?

replaying shortly

[Addled Platypus]

I am more positve it was not cntl-n before saving

repost save

http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php?file=22570_mu_3370.hot

dont even have the foggiest on doing this-

Or even better to look at Greek position after your turn and to check if Mycenae works forest or fish (the original placement was forest but when I started Greek turn it was replaced to fish).

so I did not

[RobRoy]

Minoans - popped a hut for a merc; found a Greek horse trying to steal a Minoan hut (or is that a Minoan trying to steal a Greek hut ). Decided not to fight the Greek...they've got enough problems with the "Dorian" horde right now, I suspect. Hopefully Minos won't regret this.

Hittites - popped two huts for more barbs, as if we don't have enough red on the board, already.

Funny, the "Scythian" horde doesn't seem to be expanding as fast as it should. Hittites have most of the area surrounding the horde revealed, but only four barbies moved beyond the initial nine tiles. I wonder if some barbs are starting to vanish, already? ST, have you seen any signs of premature vanishing?

You're up Plat.

Originally posted by Platypus Rex
cant rule out accidently doing f11, most likely by mouse though

is that just as bad?

replaying shortly

I checked and the replay did not replicate the anomaly. I suspect/hope it was an inadvertant F11. Not sure what you mean by the "mouse" reference, though.

Just remember: Any opening of the Demographics screen will mess up everyone else's production, whether it's via the World menu (Demographics) or via pressing F11. There may be other ways of accessing the screen that I'm forgetting. But none should be done during your turn. In a regular game, we'd have to replay everything.

You're free to check the Demographics screen AFTER you save.

[Addled Platypus]

selecting from the menu with the mouse

other oddities: I download once, it shows up as twice here in the thread (does this with other games)

http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php?file=22570_ha_b3350.hot

3 Barb Cats
3 Barb ???

off to the east,3-4 grid squares

[RobRoy]

Originally posted by Platypus Rex
...other oddities: I download once, it shows up as twice here in the thread (does this with other games)
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3 Barb Cats
3 Barb ???

off to the east,3-4 grid squares

Don't know about the download count oddity. Shouldn't have anything to do with the game though. Possibly a function of some browser settings, or something to do with your Apolyton preferences. I notice your uploads have an odd naming convention preceding the file name. Do you, perhaps, have some sort of download manager running? Or some other non-standard memory resident utility? Or do you use a different upload (download?) procedure than the attach file box at the bottom of the message screen?

So you're saying you see ANOTHER barb horde east of Babylon? With the Battering Ram and Bronze Infantry I units? Great! What should we call 'em? Elamites? Sumerians?

Pal, you're up? He's not out of town is he?

[Palaiologos]

I was indeed out of town. Terribly sorry for the delay.