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  • That would be something to look into actually, I think it would be a fun addition and a much more respectable way for people to become "vassals" of others without looking bad. That's the last thing that should be on our list though. I've still gotta get these new leaders worked out and I really hoped I'd get some suggestions towards changes for some of their traits, but if you all think they're fine then I'll stick with them. I have to fix their diplomacy texts though, which is going to be quite daunting (creating diplomacy texts for 18 leaders). I understand it isn't necessary, because this is for diplogames, but I don't think there's anything wrong with creating a polished project. So I think we'll get this mod done within the next couple of months and I would like to try out a small, maybe even quick-paced/small map diplogame to test out all of the changes we will be making but that ship hasn't even been built yet.

    So hopefully I can get that done quickly, then the inquisitor and then the space ship situation then the voting xml and we should have our diplogame mod ready to go. I'll post more screens from my test games just to keep people interested. People love screens.
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    • Okay here's another screenshot.

      We've got an Egyptian Musketman, Ethiopian Infantry, Ethiopian Marine, Portugese Musketman, Portugese Knight, Indian Infantry and Indian Grenadier.
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      • Once MMC and I finish this mod up I have plans to create two scenarios to be used for diplogames. one will be the Earth Map scenario and the other will be Europe scenario. That way we can play diplogames on a real map with real countries. But that's for future debate.
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        • Europe map.

          Consult me when the time comes, cause I'm a map nerd. I'm very particular as to what is and isn't a good map.
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          • Oh, I was just going to use the regular Europe map. But I'll do that. We've got to get all of the XML **** finished first though, obviously. But I thought the short period of time I played in the Tales from the European Front game was fun and I thought it would be equally fun to do that again on Civ 4. The only thing about that is I think it would be better to have a full on Europe scenario, such as change the religions et cetera so its fully European. That is for later discussion though.

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            • Oh yea, that'd be great. There was a great mod for vanilla Civ4 that I had toyed with updating to BTS myself, called EU3 or something. It had a lot of custom civs, custom tech tree, etc.
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              • Well, I think its best that we don't get carried away with it, if you add too many custom civs you are going to get too many players and I think 15 is the maximum we should go for. I would probably change HRE to Austria, probably add Ukraine for balance, probably a Finland and a Poland, maybe a Scotland but that's as far as I'd go with adding new custom civs.
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                • Oh, and I just thought of something else; in our map we should probably have North Africa, Greenland, Iceland etc to make like an artificial oil competition, so as to make the modern era a little more interesting.
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                  • Rather than adding Scotland, how about changing the English to be the British? The Angles can from the same place as the Saxons and the Vikings, whereas the Britons were already here. I suppose the Celts technically fill those shoes, but if you remove the Celts and English, and just have the British (with a combined selection of leaders), then you don't have to worry as much about over-loading the number of civs.
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                    • And of course, don't forget North Sea oil...
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                      • Well MMC that's what I meant by adding Iceland etc, basically just oil thats difficult to get at was my point.

                        And the only reason I was thinking of adding the Scots was to give the English someone to deal with on their island, but if you want we could just extend them into being the British. But I thought it would be fun to give them some competition. Although later on their countries would probably be small in comparison to others, which may not be that fair.

                        But I think we should focus on finishing this mod first. I still have to do Diplomacy texts for everyone, which is going to SUCK so hard.
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                        • I have a couple of questions if anyone has answers for me.

                          The first one is whether or not it is possible to preset starting locations that don't necessarily get used. Could I set up an Earth map with starting locations for EACH civ even they aren't actually used? You know what I'm saying?

                          Also; is there a way to have a civ that isn't available to select normally. Basically what I am trying to do is add a few countries and have the European scenario as part of the Diplogame mod. I wanted to add Italy, Poland, Ukraine, Austria, and maybe Hungary. But I didnt' necessarily want them as civs you can pick normally. Although I guess there is no harm in adding them to the regular game but I was going to use HRE's flag and colors for Austria.

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                          • Oh yeah, does anyone know how to change the Zulu name to Nguni so I can include Nelson Mandela as a leader?

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                            • Yea, no problem. Go to this file:

                              C:\Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\YOURMODNAME\Assets\XML\Civilizations\CI V4CivilizationInfos.xml

                              The code for each civ will start out like this:


                              CIVILIZATION_FRANCE
                              TXT_KEY_CIV_FRANCE_DESC
                              TXT_KEY_CIV_FRANCE_SHORT_DESC
                              TXT_KEY_CIV_FRANCE_ADJECTIVE
                              TXT_KEY_CIV_FRANCE_PEDIA
                              PLAYERCOLOR_DARK_BLUE
                              ART_DEF_CIVILIZATION_FRANCE
                              ARTSTYLE_EUROPEAN
                              UNIT_ARTSTYLE_EUROPEAN


                              The part you want is:

                              TXT_KEY_CIV_FRANCE_DESC
                              TXT_KEY_CIV_FRANCE_SHORT_DESC
                              TXT_KEY_CIV_FRANCE_ADJECTIVE

                              Change it to:
                              Nguni
                              Nguni

                              Nguni
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                              • Are you sure? I thought that was just the tagline and the actual text was somewhere else?

                                And also just wondering: Why did you go with France on that one? You could have used ZULU.

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