Beyond the Sword Fact Sheet

[joncha]

The more I hear about this expansion, the less I like it.

[Will9]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


How so?

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=5563190&postcount=8

Gogf> Rince: have you improved forts?
alexman> Yes, forts are GREATLY improved
alexman> Forts act like cities in many ways
alexman> So you can base aircraft in them, you can enter them with ships, and you can paradrop from them
alexman> You can even use them to connect resources

[Virdrago]

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[Virdrago]

Okay, from what I've got from this (new stuff, anways):

UN: has some Apostolic Palace resolutions
you can defy resolutions that are made

Buildings: levees increase production in river cities
Scotland Yard now like Academy (only built with GSs, looks like)
Shwedagon Paya gives access to Religious civics
Moai Statues give production for water tiles in the city. Is a National Wonder, not World.
some buildings give espionage points, which helps even with a specialist economy

Forts: can be used to base aircraft, enter with ships (can be used as a Panama Canal instead of wasting a city), paradrop from, and connect resources (which I'd have to see how that works).

Advanced Starts: sort of, but not, like the Barbarian scenario from Warlords: Start with a certain amount of gold, buy your cities, improvements, units, and buildings, but without waiting to start. Interesting.

Civilization splits: Voluntary. Like Britain letting Canada and Australia have independence, but still retaining some ties. Considered a vassal. No civil wars.

More turns because of the extra units.

New Civs: Holy Roman Empire (Charlemagne leader) - would rather they be called the Franks, but oh well, I'll get to found the City of Worms
Southeast Asian civ
African civ (Mauretania? Ethiopia?)
leaves one - Gilgamesh is still unconfirmed as Babylonian or Sumerian

Units: Privateer is like the Civ3 unit
Great Spy - can infiltrate, start GA, settle, build Scotland Yard, give espionage bonus
new ships
Tactical Nukes: limited range, carried by subs

AI has fewer bonuses, but will wage land, naval, and amphibious war better. Also better at managing its empire.
Automation is better, reducing micromanagement. Might have to continue to play down a level

Workers listen to city governor - interesting

Scenarios: WWII has two: one Pacific and one Europe
Crossroads: Medieval, set in Arabia and Africa

Techs: one Classical, one Renaissance, and the rest Modern

Promotions: Woodsman III
Guerilla III
air promos: Range, Interception, Ace

Events are moddable. They include quests (over a period of time), natural disasters, and discoveries bringing in bonuses.

Espionage Points: gained through the slider, GSs, events, and buildings

Siege weapons are nerfed - may change war strategies

No new victory conditions

Augustus' traits have been changed; no-one else from pre-BtS

Civics have been tweaked

Whew! That's a lot. Solver - did I miss anything?

[Dale]

Originally posted by Virdrago Scenarios: WWII has two: one Pacific and one Europe

Actually, they said 3. Different theaters and time periods.

[ColdPhoenix]

Originally posted by Virdrago
Forts: can be used to base aircraft, enter with ships (can be used as a Panama Canal instead of wasting a city), paradrop from, and connect resources (which I'd have to see how that works).

I'd guess forts connecting resources means that you build a fort on the resource and you get to use it. Increasing the security of the resource but not getting the extra food or whatever that you would get if you built the normal improvement. Useful for oil by your border etc.

[Thedrin]

Or, in other words, that's another way in which forts act like cities.

It's been confirmed that ships can only enter coastal forts so that a canal cannot be more than 2 tiles long. Presumably this restriction also applies to inland cities so that you can't use a city to stretch a canal to 3 tiles.

[lockstep]

The additions to the epic game sound great, but I really wish they hadn't added the HRE as a new civ. "Native Americans" were worse enough.

[JimMac]

Originally posted by Virdrago

...More turns because of the extra units.

I'm probably the only person who cares about this, but I wonder how many more turns there are, and how they have been 'inserted' into the timeline...hmmm

[Nikolai]

Originally posted by lockstep
The additions to the epic game sound great, but I really wish they hadn't added the HRE as a new civ. "Native Americans" were worse enough.

Yeah. One Germany was enough. We didn't need another one. And no, Charlemagne or not, the HRE is historically primary a German state.

[Solver]

Nice summary Virdrago.

[Kuciwalker]

Guerilla 3 exists in Warlords already. It's not new.

AI has fewer bonuses, but will wage land, naval, and amphibious war better. Also better at managing its empire.
Automation is better, reducing micromanagement. Might have to continue to play down a level

read: then dumped in Blake's code

[Will9]

Ocean trade routes will not be shown as lines on the map. It is still unclear how exactly it will work. This is quote from Alexman:

No, they are not visible, but blocked tiles (where your trade cannot go) are visible

[dregor]

HRE just seems really reduandant to me. Oh well, not really going to complain about it, more civs is good either way for varieties sake.

Anyone want to hazard a guess as to what Augustus' new traits are? I'm going to go with Organized/Aggressive.

[Alexander I]

Originally posted by Nikolai

Yeah. One Germany was enough. We didn't need another one. And no, Charlemagne or not, the HRE is historically primary a German state.

Just think of him as a third German leaderhead. With his own flag.