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  • What seems to be the best leader after Warloards.

    Looking at the UUs UBs and new traits, which leader seems to be the best to you?

    To me, Tokugawa, the combination of Aggressive and Protective is just an insane warmonger.

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    Augustus Caesar. Great traits for the early game and a powerful early-mid game unique unit. Should provide enough of a head start that he'll give a good game regardless of whether or not the unique building provides an excellent boost to the granary or a very poor boost to great people generation (any clarification?).

    Rameses. Quickly researching Mysticism will provide him with a chance of getting Stonehenge and gathering a good few of the religions through great prophet generation. A solid base for just about any victory condition. Hatshepsut is almost as good.

    If Shaka's aggressive trait will give him half price Ikhandas then he'll be very interesting to try out.
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    • #3
      Augustus. Free culture, cheaper civics, great people sooner, and last (my personal favorite) Praetorians! He alows plenty of warmongering and building. You may even conquer five nations and win a culture victory.
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      • #4
        Re: What seems to be the best leader after Warloards.

        Originally posted by Qwertqwert
        Looking at the UUs UBs and new traits, which leader seems to be the best to you?

        To me, Tokugawa, the combination of Aggressive and Protective is just an insane warmonger.
        How did you identify his new traits?
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        • #5
          Re: Re: What seems to be the best leader after Warloards.

          Originally posted by Blaupanzer

          How did you identify his new traits?
          This. See IGN's new preview as well.
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          • #6
            The Super IGN Preview thread near the top of this forum page links to the IGN preview which lists all trait combinations and unique buildings.
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            • #7
              Can someone tell me Julius' new traits so I don't need to read the articles? I hope they're better than Augustus's.
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                Imp, Org
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                • #9
                  The traits are set out in a handy table in the preview so you don't have to read the filler.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Will9
                    Imp, Org
                    Julius still having Org

                    Org + Praets + Warlord = sweet

                    What are the boni for Imp again?
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                        Wang Kon of Korea is looking really good - financial, and a unique building that boosts research. Add to that the free Drill promotions from protective, plus an improved siege UU, and things are looking very promissing indeed!

                        Mansa Musa's new unique building that replaces the forge and adds +10% commerce makes MM a good looking option for OCC games, I think; with the help of the oracle, you can get metal casting early on, so a bonus to a forge looks great!

                        Julius Caesar is also looking exceptional - the benefits of Imperialistic, helping with expansion in the early game, in addition to military benefits, combined with organized to help manage the costs of expansion, a nice unique building, and of course the praetorian... a recipe for carnage!

                        oh and...

                        What are the boni for Imp again?
                        100% increase in Great General emergence and a 25% production boost when creating settlers.
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                        • #13
                          I'm now back from a game of Warlords as Tokugawa. Agg + Pro rules . The early boost to Archers helps deal with Barbs, and in the second half of the game, Japan becomes a real powerhouse.
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                            Praets + Organized + More Great Generals + Warlords = Sweeet!
                            THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                            AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                            AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                            DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                            • #15
                              I'm anxious to try out some of the new traits.

                              Ex.: I'm wondering if Cyrus' Cha/Imp is going to be awesome or lame. I thought his old Exp/Cre was decent but not the best.
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