PATCH 1.09 is out!

[Krill]

The main reason for hiding horses until Animal Husbandry is that out of all of the strategic resources, Horses alone are the only ones shown at the start of the game. That is inconsistant.

Now the easy way to exploit this is to start a game, wander around until you find horses, settle on the horses, and research to AH and the wheel. Now you can build chariots, as your horses are hooked up without you having to invest in a worker. This means you could have invested into a barracks and can now start churning out the chariots and go rush someone.

This strat is only applicable to the horse resource though, as both Copper and Iron are revealed by later techs, and so you don't know where they are and can not settle on them.


That is a pretty big balance issue, and it needed to be addressed. If you have another suggestion, please post it. Whatever happens, it will be considered, and if it is found to be reasonable it will probably end up being tested, could end up being in the game. If the suggestion is utter bollocks and leaves the game unbalanced, it will be ignored.

[MarkG]

Originally posted by uberloz
I still don't see that they have actually fixed the memory leak.

I use 3.2 gig p4 processor with 128 mb ram geforce 5750 pci express vid card and 1.5 gigs of ram and still it crawls on huge maps.

i dont think speed issues with huge maps is due to memory leaking but rather the video card being able to draw and animate hundreds (if not thousands) of objects....

[Nikolai]

Originally posted by HavenDuuk
Woo 1st 1.09 bug!

When you capture a city its cultural border is reset to 1 tile (same as 1.00).

The previous owner retains control of the rest (did not happen in 1.00)

No matter what you do, the border will never expand, even when you get multiple messages saying it did.

I even sent in a Great Artist to expand it. Failed miserably.

I got that bug once in 1.00 too, so it's more right to say that it's a bug that has not been fixed.

[Stuie]

Originally posted by Alaric II.
Downloaded the patch but but having difficulties to install it..

You should probably reinstall Civ 4 from the disc(s) and use the default installation path just to be safe. Then install the patch.

[Son of David]

Despite working well enough on 1.00, version 1.09 now tells me that Civilization 'won't run on this hardware configuration' (which it does) and forces me to use low resolution and low graphics.

If I try to reset these it tell me to restart the game before the changes take effect - and when I do so it resets them and tells me once more that I can't run the game.

In other words the performance is the same, but now I am forced to use crappy low-texture graphics.

I have onboard graphics (P4 3.02GHz, 512MB RAM) and yes late-games get a bit choppy but I am a patient kind of guy. How can I disable this 'helpful new feature'?

[piotrr]

"holding during startup will clean out the cache"

Holding.. what? Space?

[Nikolai]

Shift IIRC from what I read here yesterday.

[Stone-D]

I personally have a problem with a city's culture getting reset to zero. I'd much prefer it if the culture was halved, or cut to a quarter... not zero.

Example, after Berlin got the **** bombed out of it, did everyone start ignoring it?

Or Paris, or London...

[JDexter]

Originally posted by Stone-D
I personally have a problem with a city's culture getting reset to zero. I'd much prefer it if the culture was halved, or cut to a quarter... not zero.

Example, after Berlin got the **** bombed out of it, did everyone start ignoring it?

Or Paris, or London...

I don't like the reset either. Of course, it's not a joy if someone "uses" the culture someone else built, but the same works for wonders etc too.

On the other hand the people won't just "flip" to do their new emperors bidding, so it's hard to implement a system that takes both sides into account.

Patch works very well for me and LAN multiplayer is a breeze

[Nikolai]

Berlin was given back to its original owners, the Germans, even if divided.

[Aileron]

Originally posted by Stone-D
Hmmm. Last sunday I sat down and went through all the dds files in the art directory, resizing them all. In most cases, I cut the resolution in half, in others, to a quarter. All leaderhead textures I cut to 512, and removed all mipmaps.

!?! What software did you use to do this? Any chance you could post your reduced graphics as a mod? I would love to reduce the graphics to speed up play.

[CrONoS]

Dont think the video card calculate all the graphics animation in the map in real time. I think it only calculate what you see...

Otherwise it will be slow all the time. Since when i move over big forest, it's the only time where it can became slow on some maps.

see ya

Originally posted by MarkG
i dont think speed issues with huge maps is due to memory leaking but rather the video card being able to draw and animate hundreds (if not thousands) of objects....

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Stuie
You should probably reinstall Civ 4 from the disc(s) and use the default installation path just to be safe.

Then it's a problem with the patch. If it doesn't know how to find the game automatically, ask me where it is.

[Urban Ranger]

Well, I downloaded and installed the patch.

Unfortunately, it doesn't solve my problem with the game freezing my computer solid.

Fortunately, it does seem to improve the situation a bit, after I rolled back to version 78.01 of nVidia driver and lowered all the graphical details to medium. Of course, this could be just a random occurance, so further testing will be conducted.

[Caligula 37 AD]

Originally posted by Nikolai
Berlin was given back to its original owners, the Germans, even if divided.

And Paris had cultural influence even when occupied by Fritz.

As long as this isn't a bug,
I'll play along with it, just as I do with all the other game rules I don't like.
Or if v1.09 is not creating a new bug on this (i.e. it is a bug, but not fixed)
I'll play along with it, just as I do with all the other bugs not fixed yet.

From what I can read this is not a new bug, and patch v1.09 will be installed tonight.

(fanboy? oh,yes)

And please quit the "horses visible before horseback tech" rambling. That is NOT topic

- C