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[yin26]

O.K. Here are my picks:

1 Hex
2 Korn and
3 Adm.Naismith

I believe they will be fair. Remember that there are two issues at hand: Whether or not mindless city expansion (my version of ICS) still is the only way to win in a competitive game and whether or not combat is as dull as ever. I realize that there is room for subjective judgement here, but I will abide by the ruling of this committee.

Also, should the need arise, I have complete control over how I will eat this cardboard! This is non-negotiable.

For what it's worth, I've got some recipes ready...

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by yin26
Also, should the need arise, I have complete control over how I will eat this cardboard! This is non-negotiable.

For what it's worth, I've got some recipes ready...

dam, I should have known you had this covered already

[Shogun Gunner]

probably could be made to approximate really bad frozen pizza. I mean the crust in some of those products is like.....well, cardboard!

[Addled Platypus]

Originally posted by conmcb25
This hasn't been brought up before but are we going to let him "season" the box? Can he add ketchup or salt or whatever?

not true (just cant find the thread)

i did ask about condements

thanks for the follow up

[Velociryx]

Just back from the honeymoon and popped in to see what was new in this thread!

As to my picks...Hmmm....now accepting bribes?

Seriously, if the selection spans the whole of Apolyton, then mayhaps something like:

Aeson
Theseus
Alva



-=Vel=-

[alva]

Still together I hope.


Ohh and

[Velociryx]

Yep! Still together! The trip was FANtastic!

Oh, and...

[korn469]

well i'm game

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by Platypus Rex


not true (just cant find the thread)

i did ask about condements

thanks for the follow up

Sorry PR, I must have missed it

[MarkG]

CONGRATULATIONS VEL!!

You are required to post some pics in the picture thread

[Robert]

Originally posted by yin26
Also, should the need arise, I have complete control over how I will eat this cardboard! This is non-negotiable.

To me it's most important that you'll be proven wrong
The cardboard eating is just an extra bonus

Congrats Vel!!

[Adm.Naismith]

Originally posted by yin26
O.K. Here are my picks:

1 Hex
2 Korn and
3 Adm.Naismith

I believe they will be fair. Remember that there are two issues at hand: Whether or not mindless city expansion (my version of ICS) still is the only way to win in a competitive game and whether or not combat is as dull as ever. I realize that there is room for subjective judgement here, but I will abide by the ruling of this committee.

Oh, thanks for your choice of my humble soul!

Just a question for MarkG: I'd like to know if my judgment must be based only on Yin/Vel reviews or I must play the game myself (may be the game will be available later here in Italy - and no, I'm not begging to have it sent to me earlier by someone, I want to honestly buy it here at a game shop in Milano).

Thank you

Edit
A second question: The expiration date of the contest will be after how many days, since game will be available to Yin & Vel?

[hexagonian]

Originally posted by yin26
O.K. Here are my picks: Hex...

I'm judging the content Yin's review and then making a judgement call on whether he goes on a cardboard diet, right????

I'm in. Just call me Señor Impartial.

(do we also decide how much to eat - and Vel looks like he could use some cardboard too)

...and I'll have to figure out the chat room thingie. I'm still a CR virgin...

Sidenote: Same with me, I probably will not have the game until Christmas, and I do not expect another free game from Apolyton. (I won the civ TOT game here)

[Aeson]

I don't think I'd be considered an impartial judge. I don't think the ICS "problem" as yin defines it, "Whether or not mindless city expansion (my version of ICS) still is the only way to win in a competitive game", even existed in Civ III. Mindlessly placing cities beating an equally skilled opponent (either head to head, or comparison vs AI) who is thoughtfully placing cities? No way in hell.

Even other more more conventional definitions of ICS, like placing cities as close together as allowed, didn't result in an unbeatable strategy. It could be part of an overall very strong playstyle when done right, in the right situations, but other playstyles could still compete with it, and in a lot of situations were superior. Especially later on when RCP (before it was taken out in C3C) and the FP placement were better understood. At that point, ICS was very rarely a good choice anyways.

The "best" way to place cities in Civ III was situational. Even RPC wasn't always the right answer, though it was closer than any other acronym'ed placement. What's the land like, who/what are the opponents, what's the goal. It hopefully will still be the same in CIV. If ICS (more conventional definitions, settling cities close together) is taken out completely as a viable option, rather than just being an option that is well balanced with other city placement, I think that's a loss to the game. Balanced options are good. Eliminated options are bad.

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Adm.Naismith
Just a question for MarkG: I'd like to know if my judgment must be based only on Yin/Vel reviews or I must play the game myself (may be the game will be available later here in Italy - and no, I'm not begging to have it sent to me earlier by someone, I want to honestly buy it here at a game shop in Milano)

hmmm i guess you must have some experience with civ4 otherwise you wont be able to judge yin's findings.

A second question: The expiration date of the contest will be after how many days, since game will be available to Yin & Vel?

i think two weeks of playtime for yin & vel is decent amount of time to make a judgement. add to that a week to write the review
yin, vel, sounds ok?

if a judge doesnt have the game in this timeframe backup choices should be made