Civilization IV Civs

[Robert]

Am I the only one who really doensn't care about which civs are in the game?
I care about the game rules, the way it plays, the possibilities, the interface, etc.
Which civs are exactly in the game doesn't matter to me.

[Locutus]

Originally posted by Alexander01
In Tomboctou (Timbuktu) the buildings are practically made of dust! The whole country would dissolve with one good rainstorm!

And yet they're still standing after 700 years...

As if they'd actually get a rainstorm there in the middle of the Sahara!

Mali != middle of the Sahara, or even Sahara at all. The Niger river valley is quite fertile, and was even more fertile when Mali ruled. It was in fact one of the most fertile regions on the planet before desertification set in a couple of centuries ago.

Originally posted by vovan
Granted, I don't know how much this guy knows about history, but sounds plausible.

I could make a few additions to that, but he knows his history well enough to get the point across. IMO Mali was more important than certain other civs, such as the Aztec, Americans or Koreans (and certainly the Zulu).

Mind you, Ethiopia wouldn't have been a bad pick either, but Mali is most certainly worthy as well.

[curtsibling]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
The American debate is rather stupid and pointless given that there's no chance of Firaxis ever leaving them out of a civ game.

Exactly - It is a marketing choice.

And besides, I like the American civ being in my games.

It makes a valuable ally or an entertaining enemy!

[Adagio]

Originally posted by Alexander01
You know, come to think of it, how many civs can be in any one game at any given time? I was irritated that you could only have 3 cis on a small map in Civ 3. I'd like a good 18 civ game without all the glitches...

You could change that through the editor

[Fidel]

Originally posted by CyberShy
Am I the only one who really doensn't care about which civs are in the game?
I care about the game rules, the way it plays, the possibilities, the interface, etc.
Which civs are exactly in the game doesn't matter to me.

ditto
anyway, i expect that modders will create literally every civ possible later for anyone to download, so who cares about what is in the game
still, i would appreciate not having ctp nightmare mentioned earlier and being destroyed by omnipotent micronesian empire. that is plainly ridiculous.

[Alexander I]

I'm well aware of the glorious Malinese antiquity.

I just felt like ranting and raving because Mali still seems out of place in a Civ game with no Greeks. Heavens.

[vovan]

You never know... Greeks might still make it in at the expense of some other civ.

[Alexander I]

Oh, I know.

It's just fun to rant every once in a while.

[Gen. Atkinson]

I really don't care which civs are in as long as the Celts are definately in.

[curtsibling]

CIV1 had 14 factions:

Americans
Aztecs
Babylonians
Chinese
Egyptians
English
French
Germans
Greeks
Indians
Mongols
Romans
Russians
Zulus

I would be sad to see any of these civs not in the game.
Anything extra (and there I imagine there is!) is a bonus!

[Alexander I]

Civilization 2 had 21 factions:

Americans
Aztecs
Babylonians
Carthaginians
Celts
Chinese
Egyptians
English
French
Germans
Greeks
Indians
Japanese
Mongols
Persians
Romans
Russians
Spanish
Sioux
Vikings
Zulus

It would be sad to see a Civ game without most of these (Perhaps Zulus and Sioux excepted).

In my opinion, Civ2 was the zenith of Civdom.

[Alexander I]

Civ3's 3 incarnations had 31 (32) civs total. I would like to see most of these at some point. Maybe in an expansion or 7?

Civ3 (16)

Americans
Aztecs
Babylonians
Chinese
Egyptians
English
French
Germans
Greeks
Indians
*Iroquois
Japanese
Persians
Romans
Russians
Zulus

C3: PTW (8)

*Arabs
Carthiginians
Celts
*Koreans
Mongols
Spanish
*Ottomans
Vikings

C3: C (7/[8])

*(Austrians)
*Byzantines
*Dutch
*Hittites
*Incans
*Mayans
*Portuguese
*Sumerians

* indicates a Civ that had not previously been featured in any Civ game.

[Locutus]

Originally posted by curtsibling
I would be sad to see any of these civs not in the game.
Anything extra (and there I imagine there is!) is a bonus!

I'm NOT sad to see the Zulu go, and I wouldn't mind if they finally did history justice and replaced the Aztec with the Maya. But other than that, I agree

[Alexander I]

I concur with Locutus. If there is to be only one Mesoamerican civ, it should be the Mayans. Let the Aztecs come in an expansion if they must.

As for the Zulus, let them be in a British Empire scenario or something.

[Mace]

Originally posted by Alexander01 I just felt like ranting and raving because Mali still seems out of place in a Civ game with no Greeks. Heavens.

What!!?!? The Greeks are not in? Surely that's won't be the case. heheh.

*Mace muses to himself , "No Greeks?...And it calls itself a Civ game...."

Oh well. Just so Civ4 plays well. I don't care what civs are in. The Greeks will be modded in, anyway.