Catholic Church has skeptic arrested for explaining miracle

[Imran Siddiqui]

OK, I stand corrected, for some reason I thought you were a muslim. Or did you stop being a muslim for a while, became an atheist and then found Christianity? As an atheist, what was it that made you become religious?

I was an atheist for like 8 freaking years. The vast majority of the time I've been posting on this site (which, unfortunately, has been since 1998).

I believe my "testimony", as it were, is somewhere on this site. It was a decent enough story that it convinced Ben I wasn't trolling . The basic jist, more or less, is that I met some actual Christians rather than the stereotype - people who just loved me for being a fellow person and who didn't care nor were judgemental about my atheism (actually it was kind of wierd - like why are you people so nice to me). I decided to be open to the possibility (which is all they really asked - no one was pressuring me to convert) and had what I'd call a religious experience - a feeling of overwhelming love and joy and thus began my journey.

'Tis the Readers Digest version. I also have fun stories of being in an uber-conservative Pentecostal Church and simultaneously (well, you know over the last year or so - I wasn't bending the laws of space and time) being an uber-liberal Lutheran Church (one with a gay pastor).

[loinburger]

And I guess JR's life has been a bed of roses. Good to know.

No, I won't be sad when I do go.

Is this because you'll die while being content in knowing that you did your best to leave the world a better place than you found it, or is this because you'll be glad to be put out of your misery? If it's the latter then I promise to put you on ignore and never trouble you again, because that's one of the most depressing things I've ever heard.

My life isn't perfect, because nobody's life is perfect. But at the same time, my life isn't so pathetic that I eagerly await death.

[Elok]

I figured you needed a hand.

I always pictured you with pincers, or perhaps tentacles.

[MOBIUS]

That's only when I feel like slipping into something more comfortable...

[Jon Miller]

'Tis the Readers Digest version. I also have fun stories of being in an uber-conservative Pentecostal Church and simultaneously (well, you know over the last year or so - I wasn't bending the laws of space and time) being an uber-liberal Lutheran Church (one with a gay pastor).

Makes sense to me.

JM

[Kidicious]

So if people chose not to follow a King - that king has no power over them? I'm sure the Catholics in Henry VIII's realm would have loved to know that!!

Playing stupid is unbecoming. The relationship between a minority group and a King is completely different from the relationship that God has with those who don't believe in him. A minority group obeys their king because they know that if they don't there will be consequences. People who don't believe in God simple do not worry at all about obeying him.

[Kidicious]

That's exactly what it is! The fact is that you're all running around blindly making stuff up because there is no direction from the big man himself - because he doesn't ****ing exist!!!

If he existed, there would be guildlines. You know, one central world religion, no more religious wars - that sort of thing... The fact is that no one has a ****ing clue, except for the parasites at the top of all the various splintered belief systems around the world feeding off the naive gullibility of morons like you.

To me that is the biggest arrogance of worshipping God there is - that you all basically choose the way to worship him and not the other way around. In fact some people (Imran) decide they don't want to worship him in a particular way and jump ships to a completely different belief system because it suits them better - maybe he fancied a bacon sandwich and found he could eat all the pork he wanted switching to Christianity!

Who says if God existed there would be one world religion? You just made that up. That's exactly what you blame other people for doing. Walk the talk buddy.

[Kidicious]

Is this because you'll die while being content in knowing that you did your best to leave the world a better place than you found it, or is this because you'll be glad to be put out of your misery? If it's the latter then I promise to put you on ignore and never trouble you again, because that's one of the most depressing things I've ever heard.

My life isn't perfect, because nobody's life is perfect. But at the same time, my life isn't so pathetic that I eagerly await death.

I think he was clear about what he said. It's because he won't have to be bothered by people like you. Will you still put him on ignore now and leave him alone?

[loinburger]

I think he was clear about what he said. It's because he won't have to be bothered by people like you. Will you still put him on ignore now and leave him alone?

You speak for BK now? Is this some form of retard telepathy?

[Kidicious]

You speak for BK now? Is this some form of retard telepathy?

I'll take that as a no.

[Kidicious]

It might be hard for you to imagine, but people don't have pathetic lives just because they don't post dickgirls. I have no reason to believe that BK has a pathetic life. In fact, since he doesn't post dickgirls I'm more inclined to believe that he has a good life. That has nothing to do with wanting to be rid of certain people.

[loinburger]

Why are you so obsessed with dickgirls? I posted them once, sure, but you just can't stop talking about and fantasizing about them.

And if somebody's life is so sad and empty that they eagerly await death, then that's the very definition of "pathetic."

[Kidicious]

Why are you so obsessed with dickgirls? I posted them once, sure, but you just can't stop talking about them.

Oh that's rich!

And if somebody's life is so sad and empty that they eagerly await death, then that's the very definition of "pathetic."

No one ever said that their life was sad and empty. You're an idiot.

[loinburger]

No one ever said that their life was sad and empty. You're an idiot.

"The world is complete and total crap and I'll be happy to leave. Good riddance."

At best, these are the words of a pathetic man with a sad and empty life. Alternatively, they're the words of a sociopath.

[MOBIUS]

Who says if God existed there would be one world religion? You just made that up. That's exactly what you blame other people for doing. Walk the talk buddy.

If everyone knew for a fact that there was only one God, then it makes sense there would only be only religion. It's common sense really, something you're clearly lacking in...

[Kidicious]

"The world is complete and total crap and I'll be happy to leave. Good riddance."

At best, these are the words of a pathetic man with a sad and empty life. Alternatively, they're the words of a sociopath.

It is not suprising to me at all that he would say that since there are many people like you who constantly harrass him on this site. At any rate, you don't really know what he meant because you don't really know BK. All you do is hate him. And anyone who hates someone doesn't know them at all. I know what he means when he says that because I believe in the same God. But you have no idea and you are wrong. And you are an idiot.

[loinburger]

It is not suprising to me at all that he would say that since there are many people like you who constantly harrass him on this site.

He wants to die because people are mean to him online? That's even more pathetic, especially given his low opinions of anti-bullying laws.

[Kidicious]

If everyone knew for a fact that there was only one God, then it makes sense there would only be only religion. It's common sense really, something you're clearly lacking in...

How can you call it common sense when it's not all that common of a belief? And even if it were how would that be any different? All you are doing is making up the fact that whatever is common sense is true. There's no getting around it. You're making stuff up.

[Kidicious]

He wants to die because people are mean to him online? That's even more pathetic, especially given his low opinions of anti-bullying laws.

No, you idiot. It's a religious view, and I'm not getting into it with a troll. How about you just go away?

[MOBIUS]

How can you call it common sense when it's not all that common of a belief? And even if it were how would that be any different? All you are doing is making up the fact that whatever is common sense is true. There's no getting around it. You're making stuff up.

Oh. My. God! Just when I think you couldn't get any thicker, you surpass yourself - there really is no talking to you!

Listen, if God suddenly appeared in the sky all over the world simultaneously (he can do that, because he's God!) and said "OK people, here I am. Most of you have got it wrong and I want you all to worship me through Islam. That is why gave Muhammad his revelations, as I realised I'd obviously failed with Jesus, what with Christianity already beginning to splinter all over the place. So all you Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, Shintoists, Christians, etc, etc, etc, here I am - mystery solved!"

Anyway, if everyone was suddenly confronted with God, they would all start believing in him and stop believing in any religion that clearly had nothing to do with him, like Scientology for example. It's so ****ing obviously, but clearly you're too ****ing thick or pig-headed to even entertain the idea!

[loinburger]

No, you idiot. It's a religious view, and I'm not getting into it with a troll. How about you just go away?

You are incredibly stupid, and are not doing BK any favors by "defending" him

[Kidicious]

Oh. My. God! Just when I think you couldn't get any thicker, you surpass yourself - there really is no talking to you!

Listen, if God suddenly appeared in the sky all over the world simultaneously (he can do that, because he's God!) and said "OK people, here I am. Most of you have got it wrong and I want you all to worship me through Islam. That is why gave Muhammad his revelations, as I realised I'd obviously failed with Jesus, what with Christianity already beginning to splinter all over the place. So all you Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, Shintoists, Christians, etc, etc, etc, here I am - mystery solved!"

Anyway, if everyone was suddenly confronted with God, they would all start believing in him and stop believing in any religion that clearly had nothing to do with him, like Scientology for example. It's so ****ing obviously, but clearly you're too ****ing thick or pig-headed to even entertain the idea!

Why should I entertain your fantasy?

[kentonio]

God obviously profits from a divided world in constant conflict. Maybe he's making a killing betting on the outcome of religious wars with Satan!

[Kidicious]

God obviously profits from a divided world in constant conflict.

There can't be any glory without conflict.

[MOBIUS]

Why should I entertain your fantasy?

Because it might offer you salvation from yours!

[Kidicious]

Because it might offer you salvation from yours!

Saved by a troll? Interesting thought.

[MOBIUS]

Christians would beg to differ as to who the troll is between me and you, in the way that your very existence brings their religion into disrepute.

[Kidicious]

Christians would beg to differ as to who the troll is between me and you, in the way that your very existence brings their religion into disrepute.

Well that is their problem. Your existence doesn't bring my religion into dispute. I feel good about that.

[Ben Kenobi]

Christians would beg to differ as to who the troll is between me and you, in the way that your very existence brings their religion into disrepute.

Moby = troll.

Gosh that was simple.

[MOBIUS]

Yay, it's official - I'm not a troll!