NFL - Are You Ready For Some Football?! - The Offseason

[DirtyMartini]

What Jrabbit said.

The whole thing smells like the Favre sagas of the past few years (as stated, another Cook client). The public just cut BrettFavreBrettFavreBrettFavre more slack.

[snoopy369]

Guess what bright young WR is a Cook client as well...

[-Jrabbit]

Calvin Johnson

[snoopy369]

No fair guessing if you'd already read the article I was just trolling the Lions fans, anyway. Because I'm mean like that, kicking lions when they're down and all.

[Ming]

Frankly, I would have no problem giving up two first round picks for him. The Bears haven't had a franchise QB in my lifetime, and it sure would be nice for a change. Also, our history of first round picks suck anyways. Hoping they will get better at it when he have the same bozo in place making the picks is asking too much.
We end up paying big bucks for somebody that sucks. I would rather pay big bucks to somebody that we can build a team around.

[snoopy369]

ESPN's current expected asking price :

Chicago Bears: The No. 18 and No. 84 overall picks, cornerback Nathan Vasher and quarterback Kyle Orton. The Bears could get this done without including a third team. -- Kevin Seifert

Not sure I want to give up Vasher, particularly with our secondary issues.

[Ming]

I'd take that deal in a second

[Ben Kenobi]

I am not sure any of those QBs are worth two first rounders.

That's another fair assessment. 2 first rounders is a huge investment.

Roeth is definitely not, he's a SB winner because he's a quality QB on a great team that does not require amazing performance out of a QB.

He's won 2 superbowls, and is very young. The only mark against him is whether he could carry a team on his own.

Manning would have been years ago, but he's too old now - not sure he'd be worth one first rounder.

I'd give 2 up for Peyton in a heartbeat. He's just that good.

Brees and Rivers are both good quarterbacks, and reasonably young; perhaps a team that had all the parts except a QB could consider that for either of them - but frankly that team would do the same for Cutler, if you discount the (potential) attitude problem.

And that's my real point. He has a huge attitude problem, this isn't something new. Bears fans better check into that before building a team around him.

And Brady is an injury risk until he plays a full season, as far as I'm concerned; you NEVER take a risk on a guy who recently sustained a serious injury, even if it's one that shouldn't impact his performance. You never know what's going to impact performance mentally or physically...

I think Brady is an excellent QB who should return to form. Of course, I could be totally out to lunch here.

[-Jrabbit]

From the perspective of Bears fans, we've seen how far a great defense and mediocre (at best) offense gets us -- into the Super Bowl about once every 20 years. The window of opportunity from 3 years back is all but closed. The league has solved the Tampa-2, Urlacher's a shell of his old self and the offense still sucks.

I think the general feeling around town is: Hey, maybe we should try this "offense" thingy. Maybe the defense wouldn't blow so many late leads if they weren't on the field so damned much (29th in time of possession). Maybe a real QB would help.

Personally, I think Orton can develop into a respectable leader. He's got the physical tools to succeed, but mediocre protection and minimal weapons to work with. That's why signing Orlando Pace looms much larger for me.

But if, against all odds, Cutler somehow ends up in Chicago, it won't bother me. Within 3 years, either the Bears will succeed, or the Angelo-Smith regime will be toast.

[Supr49er]

Bears get Cutler.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4037373

They traded Orton and the 2009, 2010 First Round picks.

[Ben Kenobi]

I still don't see how you guys let Ron Rivera go. The Bears have management problems.

[snoopy369]

Hmmmm, Orton and the next two first rounders... interesting. I'm very curious if we're going to renegotiate Cutler's contract or not now (IIRC he's quite cheap for the next few years, but there were suggestions that an extension would be expected if he were traded, for big bucks).

[Ben Kenobi]

To acquire Cutler, the Bears had to give up quarterback Kyle Orton and first-round picks in 2009 and 2010, a source said.

Too much. Good luck guys. Glad to see Cutler gone.

He'll want Peyton Manning style money I'm sure.

[snoopy369]

Apparently we actually gave up 2 first rounders (as above) and this year's 3rd round, and got back this year's 5th round from Seattle via Denver.

[Supr49er]

John Clayton has updated the trade:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4037373

Bears trade Kyle Orton and first-round picks in 2009 and 2010, along with a third-round pick in 2009 and the Broncos threw in a fifth round pick in 2009.