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  • It was 209 ALL TECH, not just research and production tech. But yes prewarp. 7 impossible ai.
    When you see the Vulture fleet coming your way you can count on 2 things. I brought enough to do the job and you should start looking for a new game.

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    • Thanks for the info guys, think I will try that and see how close I can come this weekend.

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      • This has been the most interesting and helpful thread of any I have read on Moo2. I printed it, at over 100 pages it should be a book. Hope Moo3 doesn't mean the end of this great thread.

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        • I suspect that it will cause a slow down, but not the death. Once most of us get in shots at Moo3 and either give or master it. IOW I am not sure if it has any play or replay value. I am sure I will be playing more Moo1 and Moo2.

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          • I think we are seeing the slow down, the test of how good Moo3 really is how many people come back to Moo1 or Moo2 and these threads. I expect to always at least lurk around these threads including CivII and SMAC.

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            • I have not played SMAC in a few years, I played it to death and finally could not face starting a new game.
              I think the one reasin was unhappiness, if only I could mind stable endlessly, I could still play. Sid seems to love unhappiness in all of his games.

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              • I agree Sid seemed to go overboard on happiness, that's why we take it out of battle scenarios, pollution as well. Really, it wasn't very important during WW2 and in times before that survival was more important. If you play SMAX you have a little more choice, but the last time I played I DL a bunch of customized factions and really enjoyed playing again. You can also adjust the rules txt to decrease unhappiness if you so choose. I found with the right SP's and builds happiness can be managed, its just a distraction. I like all the terraforming that you could do in SMAC and miss it in other games.

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                • Yes you can handle it as you can in CivIII at Deity, but it is not much fun to have to spend so much efford to deal with what should be a minor issue IMO.

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                  • I agree. Lets hope we get some help in keeping this thread alive. Would like to get more views on custom races.

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                    • I moved to MOO3 for now but when I get tired of it I will return posting here
                      Against stupidity the very gods themselves contend in vain.

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                      • bakalov,

                        I look forward to your return, you have made some great contributions to this thread. Very helpful to me, thanks. Let us know what you think of Moo3.

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                        • While I don't normally use creative, for a change I am using a creative, aqua with plus production and research and enjoying it alot. What is the latest race you guys are using?

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                          • I just digged this game out again, and play with;

                            Huge galaxy, Organic

                            Creative, LHW, RHW, AHW, Dicatorship, +1 Science, Omniscience


                            -ship offense, -ground combat, either -BC and -ship defense, or Repulsive

                            Extremely defense-oriented really, I use my initial colony to support expansion.

                            I've only played on Average so far, and it's been a complete pushover.

                            Views on this race?

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                            • Originally posted by Rubbrduck
                              Huge galaxy, Organic
                              Creative, LHW, RHW, AHW, Dicatorship, +1 Science, Omniscience
                              -ship offense, -ground combat, either -BC and -ship defense, or Repulsive
                              I've only played on Average so far, and it's been a complete pushover.
                              It can make like easy on most levels. I would skip Omni. This is not needed until very late to detect stealth races and can be picked up at mutation if needed.

                              I am not fond of -BC, but any other the negs are fine.
                              If you go to impossible level this race can be hard to play if you are close to any of the monster races. If you get a chance to get going then it is good. I would take +1 production over Omni for sure.

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                              • Just to kill time waiting for GalCiv (yes, I skipped MOO3, it's MOO-meets-Excel-and-turns-Screensaver.. and buggy with this ! ), and will try for a Telepath+Diplo+Democracy -Spy-Growth race.

                                I play SP only, I plan to diplo-steal the AI empires with +75% diplo chance, and/or convert their planets (so I don't need growth that much.. )

                                I'm a little worried about Demo-Spy, ahy idiot will be able to steal everything from me, I'd have to put a big amount on anti-spy techs and structures.

                                But it looks cool that's the point !

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