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  • #16
    Yeah, I never use Gyros either, I like HV mass drivers early. I just want to test out the missle route, I have one last scenario on a Homm4 campaign, then I will fire up Moo2.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Zealot
      I love to see how tough guys can kick in the AI's butt, but they don't mention multiplayer.
      Yea, like the quote with "well ive played for three years and i never use plasma cannons". You dont need to pay $20 to Kali to use your brain.


      And BTW, if you actually READ the post, I specifically say vs. OTHER PLAYERS, you have to mix up missle boats with other ships. The missle boats are there to knock out planetary defenses. If you play vs other good players you knock out their ships with mass drivers or lasers.

      PS.
      And maybe you should post something constructive for beginners rather than say DUH your not cool if you're not Kali.

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      • #18
        Kali is free now, so come on over for a 1v1.

        IMPORTANT: There is no support for Kali! It was last compiled almost 20 years ago for Windows 95/XP! Use at your own risk!


        Sorry for just replying this, but my IE window crashed in the precise moment I was clicking on the "Submit Reply" button.
        "BANANA POWAAAAH!!! (exclamation Zopperoni style)" - Mercator, in the OT 'What fruit are you?' thread
        Join the Civ2 Democratic Game! We have a banana option in every poll just for you to vote for!
        Many thanks to Zealot for wasting his time on the jobs section at Gamasutra - MarkG in the article SMAC2 IN FULL 3D? http://apolyton.net/misc/
        Always thought settlers looked like Viking helmets. Took me a while to spot they were supposed to be wagons. - The pirate about Settlers in Civ 1

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        • #19
          What do you do when you look up and see one of the races has 6 systems and you have just barely got your second colony base running? I mean other than not get in that spot? I see no way around it on impossible, small universe at prewarp, even with Rich and large traits, it takes 45-50 turns to build a corvette at the sub 900 RP level. To me there is not much leeway in what to do at this early stage as your pop can not be useful at food past the min needs and labor is not productive once it is at the point where it is generating waste.
          Unification, telepathic, Rich, Large, -ship attack (maybe low g and + spy or something). Elec computer then lab , work toward frieghter, then basicly lowest available until pollution processor availble. At hard you get behind a fair amount and if you start at adv tech you can hold on till you start to get even. At impossible, that is not something I have been able to do very often.
          The issue of MP or SP is a red herring to me. If you can figure how to do one, you can figure out how to do the other. They are just differnet, not worse or better. If you run up on some one that has better tactics then you, so be it. Someone has to be the best and someone has to be the worse. In between it is basiclly take turns. I mean the best player is not going to beat the 50th best player every time, maybe the 1000th best player, but not others that know how to play. It will mostly be decided by the luck of the draw among more less equal players (assuming no bad plays).
          BTW I am assuming that all this is based on fair play, no editors, no cheat codes. Using those and not mentioning it is misleading at best.

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          • #20
            As to missile boats I can not see them as very practical. In a small map, they may be of value. In a huge map, by the time you find someone they have progressed to the point that they are able to hit you right away and are on the base in one round. The AI seems to have lots of beams to destroy incoming missles. By the time you are attacking they seem to have the warp so you can not leave after firing missiles either. Is it just me?

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            • #21
              Well, Forrest? I'm waiting for you!
              "BANANA POWAAAAH!!! (exclamation Zopperoni style)" - Mercator, in the OT 'What fruit are you?' thread
              Join the Civ2 Democratic Game! We have a banana option in every poll just for you to vote for!
              Many thanks to Zealot for wasting his time on the jobs section at Gamasutra - MarkG in the article SMAC2 IN FULL 3D? http://apolyton.net/misc/
              Always thought settlers looked like Viking helmets. Took me a while to spot they were supposed to be wagons. - The pirate about Settlers in Civ 1

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              • #22
                To me it is not unlike Civ3. On a smaller map with max players, you can often get to someone right away and whack them with low level units. Fewer players or larger maps, changes that as you often are not in contact early enough to do that. As you raise the difficulty levels it gets harder to do, because the AI's boost makes it much stronger at the start. At deity they get so many extra units, you can not attack them easily. In Moo2 your handicap makes it slower going.

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                • #23
                  [QUOTE] Originally posted by Zealot
                  Kali is free now, so come on over for a 1v1.

                  http://www.kali.net QUOTE]

                  Sorry dude, tried to go to Kali on a departmental computer, but they filtered it out. (I wonder why...)

                  The only time i get to play internet/LAN games is at the comic shop, and then i gotta play vs. the other guys multiplayer or I got to pay a $2 an hour.

                  We do play against internet players, but only with Unreal and quake. I'll try to convince Guy, the owner, to install Kali on one of them. Wish me luck.....

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                  • #24
                    Ok , good luck.

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                    • #25
                      Best of luck!
                      Because I want newbie soup for dinner!
                      "BANANA POWAAAAH!!! (exclamation Zopperoni style)" - Mercator, in the OT 'What fruit are you?' thread
                      Join the Civ2 Democratic Game! We have a banana option in every poll just for you to vote for!
                      Many thanks to Zealot for wasting his time on the jobs section at Gamasutra - MarkG in the article SMAC2 IN FULL 3D? http://apolyton.net/misc/
                      Always thought settlers looked like Viking helmets. Took me a while to spot they were supposed to be wagons. - The pirate about Settlers in Civ 1

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                      • #26
                        How stable is Moo2 over kali? I have played a number of MP games over a local network and besides being unbelieveably slow the combat would crash often.

                        After the last experience of playing for several hours, just to get to the good part and being unable to finish a battle I vowed I would never play Moo2 MP again
                        Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will, as it did Obi Wan's apprentice.

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                        • #27
                          It's pretty stable, Garth! But we play the dos version, since it's a lot faster than the win version. Yeah, go figure...
                          But beyond the known bugs we avoid (and they're easy to avoid) so the game won't crash, you can have over half a dozen hours of moo non-stop!

                          All you need is to have Win 95/98/Me so you can run the Dos version. We don't play the win version precisely due to speed problems.
                          "BANANA POWAAAAH!!! (exclamation Zopperoni style)" - Mercator, in the OT 'What fruit are you?' thread
                          Join the Civ2 Democratic Game! We have a banana option in every poll just for you to vote for!
                          Many thanks to Zealot for wasting his time on the jobs section at Gamasutra - MarkG in the article SMAC2 IN FULL 3D? http://apolyton.net/misc/
                          Always thought settlers looked like Viking helmets. Took me a while to spot they were supposed to be wagons. - The pirate about Settlers in Civ 1

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                          • #28
                            Because I want newbie soup for dinner!
                            Hungry? Well then eat this!!

                            I think I can run kahncentral on the departmental computers, I have to force it to dos instead of w2k. Give me a time either next wed or thurs, bec my last final is tues and im getting drunk that night. friday im leaving and im not doin internet games on aol at my parents, so choose a reasonable slot then. Im central time US.

                            BTW, contemplate huge/impossible 1v1v6 cpu. You gave the challenge, I choose the settings (how/when/where).

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                            • #29
                              Do you have to install the game differently, or just boot up in dos mode and play the windows install?
                              Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will, as it did Obi Wan's apprentice.

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                              • #30
                                Earth calling Zealot....finish your soup and give a time to duel....

                                To Garth: it really depends what OS you have, and if you have a plug and play card for multiplayer. If you exit to dos in 98 you need a separate cd and NIC dos driver loaded in autoexec.dos and config.dos. If you go to the www.kali.net, (I can't bec i'm in a classroom computer and they filtered it), there's instructions on how to load the dos version off a copy on your hard drive, so you dont have to wait for the CD music pauses which are irritating....

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