Street Fighter 4: The triumphant return of the fighter

[Alinestra Covelia]

Japanese Arcade sucks then.

I have yet to see a compelling reason to disagree with this sentiment.

[FrostyBoy]

Stop using big words, I don't like it when women are smarter than me.

[Alinestra Covelia]

I agree with you and think you're right.

[Ben Kenobi]

They have Honda!

That's awesome. Nothing better then his handslaps!

[Zero]

love honda. its atrocious what they did to honda in sf4. he was solid non fireball char in 2. in 4 hes nerfed quite alot.

evo 09 should be very interesting. its like fighter's renaissance with this game plus new release of mvc2.

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=6203459&postcount=593

too bad im old, crankier and didn't see it happen earlier when i cared... but hey its good to see the genre making a come back.

[Alinestra Covelia]

Apparently Bison's head stomp is much more powerful. It stuffs most anti-air moves, which is something it definitely did not do before. If you add in the cross up potential for his punch attack afterwards, it's a really good move now. You can happily fly around the screen and cross up with the punch attack. Mobility gone mad.

[DrSpike]

I played a Bison earlier who did this. I lost - I hardly ever play Bison and I've no idea what the counter is.

[Zero]

i guess it depends on ur main. Like AC said, stomp is crazy now, and fireball trapping is not easy as ST (but not as pointless as 3s... its between the two).

but i generally play a none fb trap/pixie char, and Bison has crap for his AA, so I'd rush that **** down(tm) if it was me.

[Jon Miller]

Playing these sorts of games with a group of freinds is a lot of fun.

Solo they are entirely meh.

JM

[Alinestra Covelia]

Most of the dynamic is shifting away from living room games with people you know to Internet games with various unknown challengers. As for actually playing against the AI, that's all but unheard of.

A few thoughts on Super Street Fighter II Turbo: HD Remix.

Sirlin is an ass.

That's all.

[Ben Kenobi]

love honda. its atrocious what they did to honda in sf4. he was solid non fireball char in 2. in 4 hes nerfed quite alot.

Really? He seems quite strong with the butt drop, and he doesn't need fireballs because he has his head butt.

I used to love jumping close, taking out the trash and then the handslap for the win.

[Zero]

Honda used to eat non fb char for breakfast. I havent had that kind of fear playing agst honda in arcade yet. Now that his command throw is not as a threat anymore.

He traded a free win agst non-fb char for questionable boost agst fb char (and game's nerf agst fb in general). being more well rounded is nice, but older version of honda was clearly stronger.

[DrSpike]

Most of the dynamic is shifting away from living room games with people you know to Internet games with various unknown challengers. As for actually playing against the AI, that's all but unheard of.

A few thoughts on Super Street Fighter II Turbo: HD Remix.

Sirlin is an ass.

That's all.

Yeah it's not about the SP - it's the MP, and you don't need to play with friends (though that's a great option if you happen to have friends that like SF).

On Sirlin I think the position is more nuanced. He has been an ass (consider his very petulant thoughts on SF4) but he did a good job of ST and his ST training material on his website is really useful.

[Ben Kenobi]

Honda used to eat non fb char for breakfast. I havent had that kind of fear playing agst honda in arcade yet. Now that his command throw is not as a threat anymore.

That's a shame! Here I thought I was the only one who enjoyed playing Honda. None of that Hakoden junk.

He traded a free win agst non-fb char for questionable boost agst fb char (and game's nerf agst fb in general). being more well rounded is nice, but older version of honda was clearly stronger.

The hardest always was Vega with his bouncing around.

Balrog was always good for perfect wins behind the wall of handslaps.

[Zero]

on sirlin; i like the guy, I like his site (he's covering that whole starcraft class on his site btw) but not in a I wanna hang out with him way.

Also, on honda; I am coming from an extremly biased POV... after all... I played cammy in ST. Honda might be fine, but when I play agst him now I feel like a wild animal caged and abused for years finally freed from oppresion.