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  • #106
    Originally posted by Asher

    It's noise because it's your repeated attempt at a strawman that was in response to one of the most retarded "theories" I've ever heard.
    I would agree, it IS noise. You seem to forget it was YOUR contention, not mine.
    "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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    • #107
      Originally posted by lord of the mark


      I would agree, it IS noise. You seem to forget it was YOUR contention, not mine.


      You repeated that question 3 times. It spawn from a similarly stupid comment you made.

      Yes, it's noise, but it's your noise, LOTM.
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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      • #108
        Originally posted by Asher


        Yes, it kind of actually does. There's one supply pool for casual and hardcore gamers alike.

        If you ignore the dimension of time. More is being supplied in late Nov through the holidays, and less in Sept-mid November. The former will (Im suggesting, and have yet to see anyone deny it) will have a higher proportion of purchasers who would be willing to defer a Wii purchase, while the later has a higher proportion of purchasers who will never buy a Wii if one isnt available in time to be an Xmas gift.
        "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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        • #109
          Originally posted by Asher



          You repeated that question 3 times. It spawn from a similarly stupid comment you made.

          Yes, it's noise, but it's your noise, LOTM.
          One more time. YOU said that where there arent multiple SKU's, there isnt market segmentation. Is THAT argument, the one YOU made, noise?

          and the reason Im being persistent on this, to the point of OCD, if anyone else makes a mistake, you are quick with the insults. If YOU make a mistake, you are quick to change the subject, and to insult anyone who wont let you wriggle off. THAT kind of behavior certainly does this forum no good.
          "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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          • #110
            Originally posted by lord of the mark

            If you ignore the dimension of time. More is being supplied in late Nov through the holidays, and less in Sept-mid November. The former will (Im suggesting, and have yet to see anyone deny it) will have a higher proportion of purchasers who would be willing to defer a Wii purchase, while the later has a higher proportion of purchasers who will never buy a Wii if one isnt available in time to be an Xmas gift.
            Your assumptions are ridiculous. How the hell can you make such assumptions when you don't know the market at all? This is exactly the point I'm trying to make.

            No, the market isn't segmented. It's one supply of consoles for both hardcore and casual buyers. Both hardcore and casual buyers purchase during the holidays. There IS NOT a period of time when "casuals" by vs "hardcore" gamers. Such an assumption is completely ridiculous and unsupported. It also demonstrates a strong misunderstanding of the market. Which is precisely why I'm saying you're wasting everyone's time with this nonsense.
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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            • #111
              Originally posted by lord of the mark


              One more time. YOU said that where there arent multiple SKU's, there isnt market segmentation. Is THAT argument, the one YOU made, noise?
              Only because the fundamental argument (market segmentation on the wii) is noise. The thing that makes it noise is the completely ridiculous idea that this is being discussed at all, which is all on you.

              And now you're contributing more noise by spamming endlessly about what is or is not noise.
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • #112
                Originally posted by Asher

                No, the market isn't segmented. It's one supply of consoles for both hardcore and casual buyers. Both hardcore and casual buyers purchase during the holidays.
                And you will note I never siad hardcore buyers dont buy during the holidays, but that I thought casual buyers, in particular parents buying it as a gift, are more relatively more likely to buy during the holidays.

                If you have some evidence that this is mistaken, Id be happy to agree that my theory doesnt hold. You COULD have presented such at the beginning, instead of going on for pages of insults.
                "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                • #113
                  [QUOTE] Originally posted by Asher

                  Only because the fundamental argument (market segmentation on the wii) is noise. The thing that makes it noise is the completely ridiculous idea that this is being discussed at all, which is all on you.


                  Im now responsible for whatever blather YOU post in response to me?
                  "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                  • #114
                    Originally posted by lord of the mark
                    And you will note I never siad hardcore buyers dont buy during the holidays, but that I thought casual buyers, in particular parents buying it as a gift, are more relatively more likely to buy during the holidays.
                    Yeah, it's not like I'm expecting 4 games as gifts either. Hardcore gamers don't get gifts for Christmas.

                    Another stellar assumption demonstrating solid understanding of the market.

                    If you have some evidence that this is mistaken, Id be happy to agree that my theory doesnt hold. You COULD have presented such at the beginning, instead of going on for pages of insults.
                    You insult me with this nonsense. This is FAR from the first time you've posited completely stupid theories in these threads. I'm just asking you to stop. You acknowledge you don't know much about it, yet that doesn't stop you from posting about it. It's just painful.
                    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                    • #115
                      Originally posted by lord of the mark
                      Im now responsible for whatever blather YOU post in response to me?
                      You're responsible for what you post. I ignored your question because it is noise, but that didn't stop you from asking it over and over until it was answered. More noise.
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • #116
                        Originally posted by Asher

                        You're responsible for what you post. I ignored your question because it is noise, but that didn't stop you from asking it over and over until it was answered. More noise.
                        I am responsible for what I post, and Im asking you to admit your mistake. Period. I admit my mistakes when I post them, as do most folks around here.
                        "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                        • #117
                          It is not a mistake to call you on BS when you say the Wii is a segmented market.

                          It is not a mistake to point out that the 360 actually does have a partially segmented market.

                          It is a mistake to assume that because I pointed you to an example of a segmented market, I said the only possible way for a market to be segmented is multiple SKUs.
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                          • #118
                            Originally posted by Asher
                            It is a mistake to assume that because I pointed you to an example of a segmented market, I said the only possible way for a market to be segmented is multiple SKUs.

                            "Seriously? You think this is a "market segmentation" strategy? I'm sure you're familiar how market segmentation works. Having 1 SKU with 1 price with 1 pool of games is not a segmented market. "
                            "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                            • #119
                              Originally posted by lord of the mark



                              "Seriously? You think this is a "market segmentation" strategy? I'm sure you're familiar how market segmentation works. Having 1 SKU with 1 price with 1 pool of games is not a segmented market. "
                              Brush up on your logic skills if you thinks that equates to saying "You can't have a segmented market with 1 SKU".

                              There's actually 3 conditionals there, in a junction. Can you spot the other two?
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • #120
                                Originally posted by Asher

                                Brush up on your logic skills if you thinks that equates to saying "You can't have a segmented market with 1 SKU".

                                There's actually 3 conditionals there, in a junction. Can you spot the other two?
                                Yup, and even with the other two, it doesnt match standard definitions of market segmentation.
                                "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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