Bioshock reviews are coming in...

[Asher]

I usually ignore the story in shooters, so that explains why we disagree.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Yep, I figured as much .

But that's why in gaming there is such a wide selection of genres .

[Wiglaf]

Originally posted by Agathon
You're a nutter Asher.

Seriously, you need to seek professional help. You have serious mental problems.

Seriously he has serious problems?

[DaShi]

Aggie's using the Tingkai defense.

[asleepathewheel]

I really like this game, but there is really no way on Earth I should be able to play through a shooter on the hardest difficulty, first time through.

Granted, I'm royally abusing the vita chambers, but I can't help myself, I'm weak

Its a great experience, but I don't see any replay value, unfortunately.

[DrSpike]

That's my experience too so far, although I actually didn't get through much before Forza grabbed my attention (and then Halo 3).

[Verto]

I got sidetracked by Halo 3 and RL as well. Yesterday I had a chance to play it again for a couple hours, and got to the Fort Frolic level.

The game seeems fairly challenging on the hardest difficulty, but maybe that's because I sort of wasted a lot of stuff for a while, not realizing I might actually need money/ammo/etc.

[snoopy369]

I got it a couple of days ago, after I replaced my perfectly good video card with another perfectly good video card that had SM 3.0 ... Anyway, i suck at FPSs and this is no difference (having to abuse vita chambers on medium...) but it is a decent bit of fun Mostly just because of the environment, and of course the philosophical stuff is amusing. How exactly are you supposed to beat those stupid Rosies in the early levels without royally abusing the vita chambers anyway?

Having to learn to still use my wrench even later in the game... it's so much easier to just turn on the machine gun The ammo limits seem low (as in max ammo carried), is this part normal? I can go through my full carry load of machine gun ammo in about a minute, including reload time... I realize it is a machine gun and goes fast, but it seems as if you need to constantly carry more of it. Oh well.

I do like the plasmids, though it's taking a lot of time to get used to them. Telekinesis especially... very odd but fun

[pg]

I still haven't gotten through Fort Frolic. I'll beat it eventually but this game was way over hyped. I say go for wrench upgrades and use it against most basic enemies when possible with shock/ice/etc. I personally just use electric buck vs Big Daddies/Rosies. It makes them too easy honestly if you do that. Just make sure you get up very close when shooting.

[snoopy369]

Which is better, shock or ice? I mostly just use shock right now, but the guys that take 8-10 wrench shots (spiders, for example) are pretty hard to take out with just wrench without losing a lot of HP... maybe i'm just not good enough on the timing

[asleepathewheel]

I'm at fort frolic as well.

I'm mainly using the wrench and shotgun, and the electric gel for big daddies.

Static Discharge 2 + Wrench = dead splicers

[DaShi]

I like to turn Big Daddies against one another. The winner is usually easy pickings after they fight.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by snoopy369
Which is better, shock or ice? I mostly just use shock right now, but the guys that take 8-10 wrench shots (spiders, for example) are pretty hard to take out with just wrench without losing a lot of HP... maybe i'm just not good enough on the timing

Shock gives you loot, ice doesn't. And ditch the wrench if they're shocked, just blast them with the pistol or something.

[asleepathewheel]

One of the worst ending sequences I've experienced. The boss just looked ludicrous, and out of character for the rest of the game, did not look like current gen's graphics. I got the good ending, which lasted all of 10 seconds, and then back to the start menu.

I give it a 93
+ Great atmosphere
+ Great graphics
+ Great score
+ Great story for a game (though nothing extraordinary for any other entertainment medium
+ just a fun game to play
+ a fps that didn't make me nauseous
+ no ludicrous achievement goals
+ research wasn't terribly tedious
+ only a few fetch quests which didn't take that long at all.

-vita chambers make the game way too easy
-only a handful of different enemy types
-no way of telling which tonics/plasmids unless you are at the bank
-plasmids aren't all that important to beating the game
-little to no replay value
- some slowdown in Hephaestus with the big daddies. (didn't patch, heard it was worse than not patching)
-a bit too linear until the last several stages
-ending was incongruous with the rest of the game
-all that build up and a 10 second video. ho hum

[snoopy369]

I would definitely like to see plasmids have a bit more ... flexibility? More RPG "Choose whether to go melee or magic, they have different advantages"; plasmids don't seem to have that choice really, as they aren't very powerful really (you can't choose to go essentially plasmid-only, and do any meaningful damage from what I can see...) - they're just a cute add-on.

That said, they certainly are better than not having them to me, giving a bit of variety to how you can approach things.