A Rant On Games and Boobs

[Spiffor]

You know me, I've never been against sex. And I'm not quite a prude. But I too am annoyed with the omnipresence of boobs in games. When playing a credible game, I like my characters (including female chars) to be credible as well.

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by General Ludd



I don't know about tomb raider, but there are games with very in-depth boob physics.

What you do in your private life is no concern of ours.

[Cyclotron]

Originally posted by General Ludd
I don't know about tomb raider, but there are games with very in-depth boob physics.

While there might be a physics engine that applies to the jugs, I doubt that an entire engine was written specifically for the funbags.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
I don't believe this.

We have games with graphical depictions of demons, undeads and other sorts of things that come out from nightmares. We have games where we get to run over living beings with cars, cut their heads off, slash open their abdomen, shooting them with various sorts of weapons, causing blood to flow freely, etc. IOW, extreme (gratuitous) violence.

And people complain about the size of boobs on a couple of women characters? This makes me feel like ripping their heads off with my bare hands!

that's the point!!

if we allow boobs in games,


then that's the stuff that will be in our NIGHTMARES!!!




you see, we need to tantalize people with violence to keep people from indulging in sins of the flesh!

DUH!

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Cyclotron


While there might be a physics engine that applies to the jugs, I doubt that an entire engine was written specifically for the funbags.

Oh.... it's been done.

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by DrSpike


What you do in your private life is no concern of ours.

[Blake]

Originally posted by General Ludd



Oh.... it's been done.

Dead or Alive?

[Skanky Burns]

Playboy mansion?

[Cyclotron]

Alright, so maybe a hooter engine was developed for games that started out as sexually charged games - DoA beach volleyball, for instance.

The point remains that the OP is talking about otherwise non-sexual games he thinks are "ruined" by sexuality. I don't think NWN added a boob engine.

[Ted Striker]

Die Bruste, ich wurde es schlagen.

[RGBVideo]

some answers:

You really think it took the developers/graphic artists more time to make the Lara Croft model than it would to make a generic male character, or the same Lara Croft model but with smaller boobs for that matter? The games need some sort of graphics, why not kill two birds with one stone and have the graphics also appeal to the game's target demographic?

Yes, like I said:

Yes.
In the long term, if the current trend continues and as games get more and more complex: yes, to a more and more distinguishable degree.

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And people complain about the size of boobs on a couple of women characters?

And then you get the hilarious "drawing big boobs takes away from the graphical artists ability to create 'art'"

takes away time, which was just an additional note, not the core argument

but hey, strawmen are nice when you can feel superior with them and circle-jerk with your friends


Here's the core argument:

But I too am annoyed with the omnipresence of boobs in games. When playing a credible game, I like my characters (including female chars) to be credible as well.

People, check out Blizzard's Starcraft: Ghost website. If you remember what the game was supposed to be like from the screenshots they posted around a year ago, you realise what BS this is.

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I want a game with a medieval setting that either:

(a) Doesn't dress the female characters in immersion-destroying softcore skimp.

(b) Has a realistically sexist theme (no female soldiers, etc).

(c) Features real nudity in an artistic context. No-one cares about nudity in other art forms - games should be no different.

If only... games like that don't sell anymore. In the early 90s, pretty much every adventure/rpg game had (a) in it, and games like Castles had b... but such games aren't really developed anymore. "They don't sell" is my guess, why.

And it was a mistake to buy NWN, as I expected it to be of the same (or similar, perhaps a bit worse) caliber as the BG series, storyline wise.

Sucker

Don't buy games without asking your Internet-pals about them. Learn to see past hype.

[duke o' york]

I think that NWN is superior to BG, but will grant that the original scenario is rubbish. Compared to some of the wonderful things that people have created and posted for free download on the net, then it is even worse, especially since it was supposed to be written by professionals. SoU was better, and HotU was loads better though.

[Cyclotron]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
Die Bruste, ich wurde es schlagen.

Natürlich

takes away time, which was just an additional note, not the core argument

He probably addressed it because frankly, the core argument is preposterous.

But I too am annoyed with the omnipresence of boobs in games. When playing a credible game, I like my characters (including female chars) to be credible as well.

Let me quote my previous statement on this:

True, the ratio of big ones to small ones is very much exaggerated in games. But then again, so are a lot of other physical traits - I played NWN for several years on various servers and I saw maybe two or three characters that used the "fat" body type. "OMG everyone here is so svelt, muscular, and trim? How can that be?" Especially in games where we play heroes, people like to look heroic, which generally includes good-looking. Many, if not most men consider large breasts, within certain limits, to be good looking. What exactly is so hard to understand?

So there.

Sucker

Don't buy games without asking your Internet-pals about them. Learn to see past hype.

NWN was awesome. The fact that he couldn't see past the SP, which was rather inadequate, isn't anybody else's fault but his own.

[Amarsir]

(Altough I admit that in my opinion it would be the **** if a MMORPG had nice sliders for body part sizes.)

Been done, in addition to a huge assortment of costume options, body sliders were added back in April to City of Heroes
And what I've noticed is that the likelihood of a female character being played by a female is inversely proportional to the size of the chest and skimpiness of the outfit. But man, can they get skimpy.

[Traianvs]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
I don't believe this.

We have games with graphical depictions of demons, undeads and other sorts of things that come out from nightmares. We have games where we get to run over living beings with cars, cut their heads off, slash open their abdomen, shooting them with various sorts of weapons, causing blood to flow freely, etc. IOW, extreme (gratuitous) violence.

And people complain about the size of boobs on a couple of women characters? This makes me feel like ripping their heads off with my bare hands!

Now look, that's the whole point... all that **** looks ridiculous. For example, most of the skins in Warcraft3 and WoW are just hilarious and kill the immersion . I don't want to see some muscular guy with 200 kgs of armour jumping around like a bunny, slashing some enemy with a 50kg sword with a decoration and trinket overload. It simply looks goofy.
I want to see large fighters, small fighters, strong fighters, nimble fighters, fighters with different styles of fighting etc!! It's like every damn person is a clone with 80kgs of musclepower
And so do large-breasted women. First of all with breasts like that no chick could ever wield a sword like that... it looks plain silly. And secondly why on earth would we want female soldiers. They are always equal in strength to men, which is just weird.

Don't call me prude, but I want immersion like in BG I or BG II. There were some badass monsters there too, but most of them looked credible even though it's a fantasy game. Take Final Fantasy on the other hand: that ****'s freaking hilarious.. Most of that Japanese / oriental fantasy looks like crap anyway, and I'm not talking about the style of drawing, I'm talking about the crappy design of their skins... with swords and axes sometimes as large as the wielder etc, give me a break damnit.


It's like many appealing things: if you overdo it, it's not cool anymore. Eating cookies is sweet, but eating too much of them sucks. The average chick can look nice if they dress up well, but if ya see them wearing slutty clothes they become unappealing!

Large boobs have the same effect on me... they're a real turn-off. And don't get me started on armoured chicks... Actually I will start on that :d
I could personally whack those armoured women with a toothpick damnit... no credibility whatsoever!

But now I see all you evil people like it... I will return disappointed to Icewind Dale, Rome Total Realism and SoF1 that don't have diz ****