FG: Mafia 33, Deep Space Nine: Peril on the Promenade

[Ben Kenobi]

Well, I was unfamiliar of any such rule barring one from voting for oneself.

[Tuberski]

Furthermore, tyou are taking choice out of our hands by helping someone commit suicide.

At the very least you must do the coin flip.

If you kill alva because he doesn'y want to play anymore, then I will not play.

ACK!

[Ben Kenobi]

If you can find the rule Tuber, then I will kill LN.

[Kassiopeia]

Neither am I - you can certainly vote for yourself.

Flip the coin. We have a tie, flip the coin. Alva may want out himself, but what if Lord Nuclear is the Mafia? You can't dismiss that either. That'd mean that LN will get to make another kill, despite the fact that we have a shot at him now. Therefore Alva's voluntary retiring may have game-determining consequences.

[Tuberski]

If alva doesn't want to play, his vote simply should not be counted.

ACK!

[Ben Kenobi]

As such a decision should.

The same for everyone who voted for alva, knowing full well, that such decision could allow the mafia to elude detection.

[Tuberski]

This is why we have the 24 hours rule also.

I'm not going to bother sifting through 32 previous mafia games to find the rule.

You can't add a rule in the middle of a game.

If you do, kill me too cause I won't play.

ACK!

[Ben Kenobi]

So unless I do what you want, you'll take your ball and go home?

[Kassiopeia]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
As such a decision should.

Yes, but the consequences will be caused by a decision the players, the voters, may not have any influence over. The GM isn't supposed to be an arbitrator, his role is/should be more like that of an, ehm, executioner. Someone who carries out whatever the rules say and the voters have determined, not what one person has themselves decided or what the GM thinks is best. This, of course, doesn't apply on time limits, but then, time limits aren't set in the rules AFAIK. Flipping the coin in the event of a tie is, though.

Again, the easiest, simplest, and clearest rules-wise way to solve this is to flip the coin. That will allow us to continue the game, and it will minimise the whining. We can discuss this when we plan out the next Mafia - people do not take lightly changing the rules.

[Ben Kenobi]

Kassi:

I am not trying to add a rule in the middle of the game, I am trying to find out what the rule is regarding this situation.

I haven't been in a mafia where this has occurred, and so I am uncertain of how to proceed according to the rules that have been set. This is why I have asked, what should I do, rather than making one decision or the other, because I see both sides as having valid arguments.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
So unless I do what you want, you'll take your ball and go home?

Nope, I'm saying that if you disregard the votes of those of that want to play and allow the vote of someone that doesn't want to play, you have destroyed the spirit of the game.

ACK!

[Kassiopeia]

The rule is quite simple , if two people are tied, and everyone has voted, it's time to flip the coin. That is how I, if GMing, would do it. The fact that alva has voted for himself or wants to end the game voluntarily has no bearing on the situation. In Mafia history, I do not recall a single instance when a self-vote would have been thrown out.

[Ben Kenobi]

Ok then Kassi.

I shall abide by your interpretation and flip the coin.

[Kassiopeia]

I, of course, take no responsibility for your actions, I was just giving counsel But in my opinion you are doing the right thing.

[Ben Kenobi]

The choice, by an impartial arbiter is low.

Now to generate the numbers.

10 random numbers for both players, the one with the lowest number will survive.