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  • Originally posted by Smiley
    Forgot to delete them from the chart. Those with no bases have no BPs.
    I have to suggest that your own rules disagree with this.

    Additional rules concerning damaged ships
    Ships that have taken 1 or 2 hits of damage are repaired for free at the end of battle.
    Ships with more than 2 hits of damaged are automatically repaired for 1 BP, deducted from next turn's income.
    A player with no home bases and exactly 15 BPs as a result of such a repair may build a base using deficit spending.
    Bold is mine.

    How would this be relevant in the least except if you kept your BPs after losing your bases?

    Further, there's nothing in the rules anywhere talking about losing BPs when you lose your bases, any more than losing your ships when you lose your bases.
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    • How would this be relevant in the least except if you kept your BPs after losing your bases?
      By capturing bases on the same turn, therefore having captured bases but no homebases?
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      • I think the more important question is, when people got baseless before in this game (GO8 I mean), did they lose all their BPs? We'll have to work from that precedent or we'd have to redo half of the game.
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        • Originally posted by Kassiopeia
          I think the more important question is, when people got baseless before in this game (GO8 I mean), did they lose all their BPs? We'll have to work from that precedent or we'd have to redo half of the game.
          True. But it needs to be explicitly stated from now on. (I have to argue that keeping BPs makes more sense, and losing specials; but it could go either way.) I still read that rule as only making sense if it applies with no bases at all - it seems too big of an exception to make just to let someone build ships a turn earlier (size 1 ships, in small quantity presumably)...
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          • Snoopy: The 15 BP rule is forwhen you have captured but no home bases.

            As for losing BPs when there are no bases at all, its in the rules under "Shields".

            It is possible for a player to send out a fleet and have it run into a shield or lose the battle, while his home bases are simultaneously captured. In this situation, the fleet remains independent, but will lose all stockpiled shields, spies, and BPs, and will lose 10% (rounded down) of it’s original numbers every turn due to lack of supply. Thus, such a fleet would be advised to capture or negotiate for a base ASAP.
            Past instances involving Vlad and Moron did have BPs zeroed as well. Last night I was obviously not fully awake.
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            • Under "Shields" is not the first place I'd start looking for this in the rules, though.
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              • Ah. I agree with Kassi on this one
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                • Especially because Disengage now also can lead to not having bases.
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                  • I nominate Jamski to recompile the rules.
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                      • I demand my BPs :doitnow:

                        grrrr I'm spending too much time playing navyfield nowadays to spend much time at the forums...meh

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                        • But you have BP's, Moron, you have 10 bases now!
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                          • Originally posted by GeoModder
                            But you have BP's, Moron, you have 10 bases now!
                            Are you calling him a moron or something?
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                            • I'm definitely calling him (by) name(s).
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                              • Originally posted by Smiley
                                I nominate Jamski to recompile the rules.
                                I shall produce definitive Rules for GO 9 and the matter will be settled. One rule shall be "The GM has final say"

                                I shall be stripping out some over-complicated fluff too. Repair will be eliminated, meaning damaged ships are restored to full health immediately and for free as that means less work for the GM, etc.

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