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  • #16
    Joysticks are prefered for flightsims because, well, that's basically how planes are flown... I think a gamepad would be just as cloumsy as a keyboard. Actually, with such a limited number of buttons they probably wouldn't be able to create a realistic flight-sim anyways, because there would only be so many controls possibe.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by General Ludd
      Gamepads are inferior in every way.


      If they where good for anything, they would be used more often on the PC. And of course you can aim. You actually can't on the console versions?
      Nice Troll. Not bitting. PC snobs can eat my shorts. You aim when snipping. When not snipping you press on the left trigger to lock on your target, then you shoot.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by lord of the mark

        how would they be for a flight sim? I found mouse and keyboard really frustrating for MS FS '98. I know serious flight simmers would get a special realistic joystick, but would a gamepad type thingie work?
        I suppose it would work. I'm sure a keyboard/gamepad combo would be much more fun than flying a plane with cursor keys.
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        • #19
          Sounds sweet...can't wait...
          Now i have to decide if i get it for PC or Xbox..

          So far i've played GTA and VC on PC, found nothing wrong with the controls, keyboard and mouse worked excellent for me, never had any control problems to complete missions for example.

          But admit that gamepads are superior overall for these kinds of games, except on one point: targetting with a mouse is a lot easier. BTW, can you actually aim in the PC version of GTA?
          Uhm, aiming is everything in the game. The mouse gives you a precision control over movement you can never achieve easily with a gamepad. And you can aim in the PC version, you always shoot exactly in the direction you're looking at, no easy locking mechanism or anything, you just follow the target with your mouse to keep hitting it.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by nostromo


            I suppose it would work. I'm sure a keyboard/gamepad combo would be much more fun than flying a plane with cursor keys.
            gamepad keyboard combo? how does that work? Hold the gamepad with your hands and use the keyboard with your feet?


            Joysticks are best for flight sims and a keyboard is handy for verbose controls.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by General Ludd


              gamepad keyboard combo? how does that work? Hold the gamepad with your hands and use the keyboard with your feet?
              I doesn't make sense? Mind you, I haven't played a flight sim in a long, long time. But I don't see why you can't hold the gamepad with one hand while you use the keyboard. And irc you don't always have to use the keyboard.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Lemmy
                Sounds sweet...can't wait...
                Now i have to decide if i get it for PC or Xbox..

                So far i've played GTA and VC on PC, found nothing wrong with the controls, keyboard and mouse worked excellent for me, never had any control problems to complete missions for example.


                Uhm, aiming is everything in the game. The mouse gives you a precision control over movement you can never achieve easily with a gamepad. And you can aim in the PC version, you always shoot exactly in the direction you're looking at, no easy locking mechanism or anything, you just follow the target with your mouse to keep hitting it.
                Aiming, everything? We're obviously not talking about the same game. Driving is also a big part of the game. I don't see myself driving with the cursor keys.
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                • #23
                  GTA is overrated.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Asher
                    The game looks like it's from 1999.

                    God bless the PS2.
                    As opposed to Doom3, which plays like it's from 1993. I'd rather have the old-looking game that at least attempts to be innovative, personally. Still, the PS2 is clearly on the verge of being obsolete technology. It just looks silly compared to the XBox.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by FrustratedPoet
                      As opposed to Doom3, which plays like it's from 1993. I'd rather have the old-looking game that at least attempts to be innovative, personally. Still, the PS2 is clearly on the verge of being obsolete technology. It just looks silly compared to the XBox.
                      DOOM3 is supposed to play like a game from 1993, it's part of its charm -- and also happens to be what the target audience wants. DOOM isn't DOOM without mindless shooting.

                      The whole "food" thing tells me this is going to suck the big one -- why the f*ck would Rockstar think it would be fun to FEED characters? What's next, do you get to toilet train the gangsters and make them change their underwear?
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                      • #26
                        BTW, can you actually aim in the PC version of GTA?


                        Of course! No wussy 'lock on'.

                        why the f*ck would Rockstar think it would be fun to FEED characters


                        'Cause that is one of the ways that determines how your characters look and make the game more RPGish. If they can do it right, I think it'll be great .
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by nostromo


                          Aiming, everything? We're obviously not talking about the same game. Driving is also a big part of the game. I don't see myself driving with the cursor keys.
                          What's the difference between cursor keys and a gamepad? A gamepad is just a comfortable keyboard that you can hold in your hands, with less buttons.

                          Explain why driving with a keyboard is so unthinkable. And why driving with a gamepad is apparently so natural and intuitive compaired to it.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by General Ludd


                            What's the difference between cursor keys and a gamepad? A gamepad is just a comfortable keyboard that you can hold in your hands, with less buttons.

                            Explain why driving with a keyboard is so unthinkable. And why driving with a gamepad is apparently so natural and intuitive compaired to it.
                            I played plenty of racing games on the PC (playing with the keyboard) and I played plenty of racing games on the Xbox. All l I can say is that I enjoy the gamepad a lot more. If you tried both, and if you don't see any difference, what can I say? IMHO the gamepad is superior to the keyboard for these kinds of games. That's all.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

                              'Cause that is one of the ways that determines how your characters look and make the game more RPGish. If they can do it right, I think it'll be great .
                              A long, long time ago, you had to eat in almost every RPG: if you didn't eat, you died. Zoom to 2004: you don't have to eat anymore. Why? It's a pain in the ass and it's simply not fun. Why include an RPG element that was weeded out of every RPG? Lets hope they will do it right.
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                              • #30
                                You can't do it right -- people play games to do things they can't do in real life. Most people can eat.
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