Yet another bleeding BG thread *sigh*

[Dis]

there has to be a way. Are you saying Lothander and Marek are dead?

Even if they are, there are certain conversation flags the gatekeeper uses. You see this alot in Baldur's Gate 2. I've used them to get the romances working. It might be best to ask someone more familiar with using it though. I try to avoid using gatekeeper and related programs.

[duke o' york]

No, both of the characters who hold the two parts of the cure are still alive, but since the diviner is dead, then I can't talk to him and then talk to Lothander to get him to move to whichever inn it is he goes to and advance the plot. I can get him his geas, but he won't accept it because he hasn't moved from outside the diviner's tent.

Should I ask on the Bioware forums, or just give up the ghost and start again in a month or two. With Tutu, and two katanas!

[duke o' york]

Well Tutu is almost set up, but I haven't got the SoA patch. The nice people who wrote Tutu even put a link in the program so that you could easily get it, but the Interplay page doesn't work. Where is the best place to get this patch from?

[Jamski]

Try....

http://ashfordcity.beigetower.org/forum/index.php

Its the home of the former interplay forum regulars.

-Jam

[duke o' york]

I have found and downloaded the patch, so maybe my girlfriend might let me visit Candlekeep once more this evening. How does the dual-wield work in BGII? You don't get the abilities like in NWN so you can't give yourself ambidextrous and 2 weapon wield or something to improve your THACO with them.
Is a kensai with 2 swords just silly? I'm also tempted by a swashbuckler type with a decent rapier-style sword and the poison dagger you can get in Beregost. That would be loads of fun to roleplay!

[Jamski]

You can put weapon profs in Two-weapon fighting, as you do with longsword or shortbow. You need 3 *s in two-weapon-fighting to be really good.

-Jam

[duke o' york]

Aha! Well, that won't take too long. Do I also need to put stars in the weapon types to be any good? With the swashbuckler example above, I'd need 3 stars in 2-weapon, 3 in longsword and 3 in dagger.

[Dis]

there are certain conversation flags that can "advance" conversations. I think the gatekeeper or shadowkeeper (I can't remember which goes to which game) discusstion board. I'll direct you there. They might know more.

just register and ask there. They probably can find a solution.

http://www.mud-master.com/forum/index.php?board=6

[DrSpike]

I think I will finally start BG over the next week or so. I have both games, and both expansions, and plan to use tutu. Looking through the manual of Sword Coast it looks more like a tack on expansion than a key part of the overall saga. Given that gaming time will take a dive soon (at present I am doing a Jamski because I have no job for a couple of weeks ) I'd like some opinions on whether to bother with it.

[J Bytheway]

In BGII at least you can create charachters with the console - you could recreate the person you have killed if that would help.

[Jamski]

DOn't bother with TotSC. It IS a tack-on.

-Jam

[DrSpike]

As I thought.

These are big games right? How long approx for BG + BG2 + ToB?

[Dis]

Originally posted by Jamski
DOn't bother with TotSC. It IS a tack-on.

-Jam

It's an interesting dungeon. esp. if you are thief who likes traps .

total time for BG + BG2 + TOB is over 150 hours I'd say but if you skip some subquests, it could be a lot shorter. Some people skip many quests and head straight to spellhold. And some people don't even go to the Suhuagin city in BG2 (there are two options to get to the underdark, I think one of them bypasses this city).

[Jamski]

Diss is correct on all counts.

-Jam

[Traianvs]

I rather liked Tosc tbh... First of all it patched the game so it was a lot easier to use and secondly there's some rather challenging fights that need a different approach than the traditional creatures require ( that greater werewolf isn't easy meat with that huge regeneration rate )

About the duration; it depends not only on the amount of quests you do, but also they way you play. If you're one of those people who like to know everything, read everything, explore all areas etc, talk a lot and so on the game lasts considerably longer.. Many dialogue is not needed in order to advance in the game but is nevertheless interesting, and can be quite time consuming, especially if you need some time to grasp what's going on all around ya. And I'm one of those ppl btw