Bear Baiting 101 Tracking Thread

[Chaunk]

lol, I do that all the time smacksim. It's almost certainly not that or I'd have had a lot of problems in many of my other PBEM's before.

[Enigma_Nova]

Most strange.
I hope Lord Raptor's found ways to attach stuff to the forums by now. :/

[Lord Raptor]

Well, here is the .zip file.

[Lord Raptor]

And this is the .sav file. By the way, I use SMAC, because that's the only version I got.

[Lord Raptor]

I really can't understand what happened this turn, because the other ones I played before eventually got to Enigma. Hmmm, must be those damned Mind Worm infested pods.

[Enigma_Nova]

It works, and is good.
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I count 5 Gaian bases, 3 Hive bases and 3 Peacekeeper bases.
All in all, that's 14 votes. Why did I end up as governor?

[Lord Raptor]

At last. Thank god.

[smacksim]

Some didn't get to re-vote after I stole the lead over HH. Kinda an annoying 'feature'.

-S

[Enigma_Nova]

But you voting for yourself coupled with HongHu's or Raptor's votes would have won!
Didn't HongHu and Raptor vote after you?

[smacksim]

If I remember right, the voting is at the beginning of turn, meaning I got to vote for HH, rather than myself.

-S

[Lord Raptor]

I voted for Smacksim.

[Enigma_Nova]

Well it doesn't matter now, since I took out one of yer colony pods.

[Snowflake]

Ok, this is a informal discussion, just to view people's attitudes.

Suppose one of us was caught cheating and gaining great benefit from doing so, what do you think we should do?

Should we kick him/her out with a permanent "cheater" mark on him/her?
Or should we let him/her continue on his/her promise of not doing it again?
Or should we do not do anything with him/her, and simply deploy cheats ourselves and turn this game into a exploits fest? (Could be very fun couldn't it? )

[smacksim]

Considering the nature of PBEM's : Slow, time consuming, a lot of steady commitment, I agree with the general sentiment at Apolyton that cheating should be punished. It wastes people's valuable time, not to mention eroding the trust that everyone else tries to build. Therefore, if someone cheated in this or any other PBEM I was in, I would want some justice. I imagine that person would be branded a cheater, and would find it hard to get any games going, which is the worst punishment. Personally, I'd be willing to continue playing if the player apologized and was convincing in stating that it wouldn't happen again, but I wouldn't expect that of everyone else. I'd be prepared for the game to die right then and there.

I guess there are a few scenarios though. For instance, what if the cheater decided they were sorry for their actions and came forward before being discovered? I'd be likely to accept their pleas for understanding in that case.

Case 2: Cheater is discovered and denies it. Bad bad bad. If the evidence is good, I'd have to go with 'Brand a Cheater', report to admin. Of course, it would really stink if someone hacked the save and made it look like someone else was cheating. But what can one do?

Case 3: Cheater is discovered and plays it off as all in good fun, but is understanding of everyone being disappointed and promises to discontinue or get a sub, or anything not to hurt the game any further. Again, I'd probably accept that.

Case 4: Cheater is discovered and is not convincing about discontinuing behavior. This is the most infuriating because some of us would accept their explanation and others wouldn't. Game would be dead.

In any case, I'd hope someone accused of cheating would find a replacement and otherwise try to keep the game fun for those remaining

I am s-o----l---o---n---g-------w---i----n----d----e----d sometimes.

-S

[Enigma_Nova]

How long would it take to find a replacement?