ACDG5: Demogame, anyone (especially newbies)?

[Illuminatus]

Originally posted by vyeh
There are two new threads in the AC Stories forum. (If I have any questions about the creation of the game, I might start a thread in the AC Creation forum. Pretty soon moderator might stuff ACDG5 cancer into a demo game forum.)

The Official Narrative is for Mart and me to keep a narrative (CMN) of the game. Only CMN Mart and me should post in this thread.

The story comment thread is for comments on the official narrative and for stories about the game. Anyone may post comments on the narrative or post stories in this thread.

Wouldn't it be better to have those two threads in the same forum as everything else?

[vyeh]

Originally posted by Illuminatus
Wouldn't it be better to have those two threads in the same forum as everything else?

You're back!

It is your call.

Ideally, it would be nice to have a sub forum similar to the faction forums in ACDG3, where Mart and I would have enough privileges to keep the threads clean.

Then all the ACDG5 threads (except for this one, they all have "ACDG5:" in front of them) could be placed there.

On the other hand, the General forum isn't that busy (a couple of non ACDG5 threads since the beginning of June) and I've put an explanatory sentence at the beginning of every thread for the newcomer.

I put those two threads in AC Stories because I thought the readers of that forum might be interested, and I was trying to keep this enterprise organized.

I had looked at how the various factions in ACDG3 had organized their subforums and I have some ideas for future threads as the game develops.

This thread is the administrative thread. I don't expect any player to look here.

There is an index thread which will be a living document to all links and important reference material.

There is a game thread where the players will do their roleplaying.

There is a turn posting thread for game saves.

There is thread to for the players to cast votes.

For your convenience, here are the quotes from Mart and me about thread organization.

Originally posted by Mart
- Recently democracy games sub-thread was merged with general thread. We should decide how to organize threads, we post in general thread, multiplayer thread or talk to maybe Illuminatus about creating demogame sub-thread again?

Originally posted by vyeh
I've given some thought to thread organization.
- a master index thread that for me to post
-- an index to The Wardroom, a turn posting thread, this thread and The Voting Booth (created by Tim)
-- game news (game has started, first faction conquered, second faction conquered)
-- game setup
-- rules (people be nice, no use of scenario editor, no alternative moves)
-- welcome/introduction

- a turn posting thread (limited to posting saves along with a brief summary and thumbnail screenshots)

All four threads will point to the master index in their first post. The master index gives us the option to create more threads.

I envision you posting the newly created game in the turn posting thread.

Any additional threads should start with ACDG.

Last time Illuminatus posted on 'poly was April 28th. To remove advertising message on AC General, I used the "report" button. In report field, I suggested Darsnan's scenarios be topped. Advertising message was removed, but Darsnan's scenarios weren't topped. I suspect that an administrator removed advertising message, but left decision of topping for Illuminatus' return.

My plan is to create threads in general forum. When Illuminatus returns, he can move threads.

Illuminatus might choose to have us remain in the AC General forum. Since the beginning of June, there has only been posts to four threads in AC General (and another thread in each of AC Stories and AC Creation). We represent three of those threads. If you count posts, we are over 95%. He may like us here to keep the AC General thread from being merged into the AC Multiplayer thread.

Personally, I'd like to have a subforum, in which you and I have moderating privileges, so we can keep the threads organized and perform police functions on any flamers.

Originally posted by vyeh
Should we set up a thread in AC stories (it would be in the index)? I'd like to see a description a la Darsnan at the beginning.
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Should we try PM'ing Illuminatus (maybe he hasn't posted because of RL)?

Originally posted by vyeh
There are two new threads in the AC Stories forum. (If I have any questions about the creation of the game, I might start a thread in the AC Creation forum. Pretty soon moderator might stuff ACDG5 cancer into a demo game forum.)

The Official Narrative is for Mart and me to keep a narrative (CMN) of the game. Only CMN Mart and me should post in this thread.

The story comment thread is for comments on the official narrative and for stories about the game. Anyone may post comments on the narrative or post stories in this thread.

As you know from ACDG3, the number of threads and posts in an ACDG can grow enormously as the game progresses and contact is made with other factions.

Personally, I'd like a subforum of either AC General or AC Multiplayer (there is more than one player in this game) with enough privileges for Mart and me to keep the subforum organized and the threads clean (for the benefit of players and interested observers). The forum would be open to all.

I'm so glad to see you!

Edit: If you leave the ACDG5 threads in this forum, could you "top" the ACDG5 index.

[Mart]

Originally posted by vyeh
What kind of error occurred when you tried to save a game from his mid turn save?

As you are aware, Kody originally wrote the fix.

Yes, the code is modified since then. Recently multiplayer SMAC was added.
With singleplayer, I'm not sure how with 100% certainty recognize smax from smac. I have some idea though how to poceed anyway.

Until we get the win_mac fix program updated to single player, governors are going to have to tell Bodissey what they want (unless they are playing on a Mac).

I know how to manually modify the save file in hex editor. Just let me know.

[vyeh]

Mart,

There are only a few units at the beginning of the game, so it isn't a big deal for the governors to tell the turn player what they want.

If the problem is the same as multiplayer (PC player can open game, scroll around, check screens, but can't save), then we don't have problem until we switch to turn player with PC.

[Illuminatus]

Originally posted by vyeh
You're back!

I was never really gone.

It is your call.

Unless the general forum gets cluttered I would advise use of this forum.

[Illuminatus]

Last time Illuminatus posted on 'poly was April 28th. To remove advertising message on AC General, I used the "report" button. In report field, I suggested Darsnan's scenarios be topped. Advertising message was removed, but Darsnan's scenarios weren't topped. I suspect that an administrator removed advertising message, but left decision of topping for Illuminatus' return.

Report button sends us an email. It may be that Solver or someone else handled it before I got around to it and got over the suggestion.

[vyeh]

Originally posted by Illuminatus
Report button sends us an email. It may be that Solver or someone else handled it before I got around to it and got over the suggestion.

Thank you for topping the index thread and the Guardian of the Planet scenario.

Could I suggest that you also top the following Darsnan scenario thread?

SMAX Spartan Scenario: Pick yer Poison!

(last post was 18-05-2008)

[vyeh]

Bodissey, dacole

This is an option. If neither of you is interested, there isn't a point in doing it.

Creating a base management thread.

You could ask for advice. No votes are taken; no consensus. You can refuse the advice.

Also can be caucus to discuss preserving base rights against power of the faction.

[Bodissey]

Fine with me.

Will we be able to cope with all these checks and balances, I wonder.

[dacole]

heh would this be in or out of character? Has some potential for in character conflict which could be fun.

[vyeh]

dacole,

At least partly out of character. I'd like to cover some game mechanics, like activating a crawler that has already moved to convoy resources from the square it has moved into. I'd like to discuss base micromanagement.

The rest of the thread would be what you make of it.

I'm thinking of calling it "The Governor's Association" and letting it evolve.

[vyeh]

Bodissey, dacole,

What are your thoughts?

[vyeh]

FYI, Unity Supply Droids. Feel free to post your comments and questions about Unity Supply Droids there.

[vyeh]

Added some rules concerning queue manipulation from Duel - TTT to the rules. Referenced Mart's quote as other bugs usually prohibited in multiplayer games.

Mart, do you know where you were quoted from?

[Mart]

That particular set of rules was created by many players during several years, I think. We are just reusing this rules. I don't think I can take credit for them.

And they pertain to smax, so some rules there do not apply to smac.

I also thought about inserting rules I haven't seen anywhere before, based on described bugs/exploits in SMAC Academy on CGN. I don't have a lot of time recently to finally do it... just RL