College Football 2013 Season

[Ben Kenobi]

Or are you arguing that the Penn State football program would've been shut down because of Sandusky's crimes had they been revealed right away? I hope not, for your sake, as that's even more retarded.

I'm saying exactly what I did say, which is that the reason why the entire affair was covered up for 10 years was to preserve the football program.

Are you asserting that they had another motive? If so, I'd like to hear it.

[SlowwHand]

The statue is gone. Knocked onto it's side and forklifted away.

[Demonbinder]

They moved it somewhere in the stadium. They should just give it to the Paterno family.

[Guynemer]

And boom goes the dynamite.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Moronic.

[rah]

Yes, let's rewrite history. Joe will no longer be recognized as the NCAA's all-time winningest coach. At some point it just gets a bit silly.

I love the 5 years of probation. Probation against what? Further diddling by a guy in jail for life or letting a dead guy put the team before the university.

[Guynemer]

Probation against any other funny business in the program, including the aforementioned too-much-stretching and letting recruits sleep on couches in players' dorms.

[SlowwHand]

I think Penn St. is perfectly within their rights to remove the statue. It created more problems than anything.
They're extremely lucky that they didn't get more of an SMUish penalty.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Interesting enough, I saw this pointed out elsewhere, that Mike McQueary was the starting QB for JoePa's last official win.

[SlowwHand]

What is your reaction to the penalties handed down by the NCAA against Penn State?

20%
Too harsh

46%
Appropriate

23%
Too lenient

11%
NCAA shouldn't have handed down punishment

(Total votes: 132,326)

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[H Tower]

38 days until we can watch football again instead of talking about it. Can't happen soon enough.

[Berzerker]

I dont agree with punishing the school and community, other than lawsuits from the victims

[Ben Kenobi]

Too harsh against JoPa, not harsh enough against the program.

[-Jrabbit]

Yes, let's rewrite history. Joe will no longer be recognized as the NCAA's all-time winningest coach. At some point it just gets a bit silly.

I love the 5 years of probation. Probation against what? Further diddling by a guy in jail for life or letting a dead guy put the team before the university.

So you're saying that if this had all come down at the time of the occurences (child rape, cover-up), you'd be fine with the outcome? The fact is, whether by intent, willful neglect, or a conspiracy, this tragedy was allowed to continue across multiple decades.

The facts of time passage, death, and imprisonment don't exonerate the school or suggest lesser consequences. Penn State continued to reap the benefits of their program (wins, bowl appearances, recruiting advantages, alum donations) throughout those years. Meanwhile, an old lech was granted full run of the facilities to recruit his victims.

If the institution had stepped up and put a stop to it, we would have had a short conversation, years ago, about one evil guy who was rightly jailed for his transgressions, and the program would have continued with minimal penalties.

But that's not what happened.

[SlowwHand]

Too harsh against JoPa, not harsh enough against the program.

I assume you mean that he died. Yes, pretty harsh, but the NCAA had nothing to do with it.