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  • #61
    Darren Dreger says the Flames/Ranger trade is still "very much alive". Probably going to happen as soon as the Flames finish their game tonight.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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    • #62
      Flames with a stinker.

      Trade imminent.

      Turns out Hagman was not the Missing Piece(tm).
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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      • #63
        It's official.

        Jokinen/Prust for Higgins/Kotalik
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        • #64
          Bob McKenzie notes that with this many damn forwards, another big trade must be on the way...
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          • #65
            Iggy is the problem. Not sure why the man is on the Olympic team.

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            • #66
              Shoo, Ben.

              Burrows on the Olympic team over Iggy. Jesus ****ing christ. He has less points than Iggy and he's playing with the ****ing Sedins, who are sensational this year.

              We were having civilized, productive hockey talk and you had to stick your pea-sized head into this thread.
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              • #67
                Burrows is the second best leftwinger. He deserves to be on the team. Iggy, not so much.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Asher View Post
                  Flames with a stinker.
                  J-Bo was not good
                  neither was Iggy
                  Joker played 20 minutes or something-- he hit a fair bit but had zero shots on net IIRC

                  Originally posted by Asher View Post

                  Trade imminent.

                  .
                  I still do not like picking up Kotalik-- ouch

                  Originally posted by Asher View Post
                  Turns out Hagman was not the Missing Piece(tm).
                  Well I didn't expect he would "part the red Sea" or something-- Its one game so give folks a chance. Most of the other Flames played tentative hockey. The new guys looked ok and were some of the Flames best ( not hard)
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Asher View Post
                    Bob McKenzie notes that with this many damn forwards, another big trade must be on the way...

                    Since the Ollie deal
                    didn't change the absolute numbers of forwards did he say this about the Ollie deal or before it?

                    I do wonder if there is space on this team now for a Craig Conroy or what happens when Dawes or Moss come back (I don't recall how long they will be out)
                    You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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                    • #70
                      The main problem is wingers specifically. Now the Flames have way too viable NHL wingers in the club, mostly 3rd/4th line quality:

                      Kotalik
                      Higgins
                      Dawes
                      Glencross
                      Hagman
                      Nystrom
                      Bourque
                      Iginla
                      Mayers
                      McGrattan
                      Moss

                      There's also centres who have played on the wing recently, like Lundmark and Boyd

                      Centres:
                      Lundmark
                      Boyd
                      Langkow
                      Stajan
                      Conroy
                      Jaffray
                      Backlund* (won't be traded)
                      Boyd

                      Simply too many bodies. In my mind I keep going back to Atlanta's demand for 4 young roster players for Kovalchuk.
                      Last edited by Asher; February 2, 2010, 10:42.
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Asher View Post
                        The main problem is wingers specifically. Now the Flames have way too viable NHL wingers in the club, mostly 3rd/4th line quality:

                        Kotalik
                        Higgins
                        Dawes
                        Glencross
                        Hagman
                        Nystrom
                        Bourque
                        Iginla
                        Mayers
                        McGrattan
                        Moss

                        There's also centres who have played on the wing recently, like Lundmark and Boyd

                        Centres:
                        Lundmark
                        Boyd
                        Langkow
                        Stajan
                        Conroy
                        Jaffray
                        Backlund* (won't be traded)
                        Boyd

                        Simply too many bodies. In my mind I keep going back to Atlanta's demand for 4 young roster players for Kovalchuk.
                        So if we slot in the guys right now and basically keep the lines from last night we have


                        Boyd-Stajan-Iggy
                        Bourque-Langkow- Glencross (Dawes injured)
                        Hagman- Higgins-Lundemark (Moss injured)
                        Kotalik- Nystrom -Mcgratton- Mayers (Conroy injured)

                        Jaffray-Backlund

                        Barring other trades one has to figure that Dawes gets back with Bourque and langkow.



                        Since Kotalik doesn't fit as a 4th liner and I have to figure thay may give Backlund some more chances, they could trade as many as 3 forwards from the top 9 and still have reasonable depth if they got a forward in return. At tsn some folks are bouncing around ideas that the trades are to clear cap space for the summer and FA signings. That would make sense for the Phaneuf deal but the Jokie deal means the Flames currently have less cap room this summer (Kotalik !! ???)

                        It simply makes no sense at all to me that a player like Kotalik is the guy on the longest contract of all the folks acquired. He seems to be the exact opposite of what Sutter would like in a player
                        Last edited by Flubber; February 2, 2010, 14:58.
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                        • #72
                          IMO Sutter should trade Iginla, Bourque, Langkow, and Bouwmeester for Alexandre Burrows.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Asher View Post
                            IMO Sutter should trade Iginla, Bourque, Langkow, and Bouwmeester for Alexandre Burrows.

                            [/ben]
                            Asher why not just ignore him when he is silly -- I am (I don't have him on ignore or anything but this obne was super-easy to disregard
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                            • #74
                              Silence is passive acceptance.
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Asher View Post
                                Silence is passive acceptance.
                                and I thought completely ignoring an idiot was an effective tactic
                                Last edited by Flubber; February 2, 2010, 16:09.
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