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  • In any case, you trade cannot possibly work -- even if it was reasonable, which it is not.
    Fine. Would love to see what you consider a reasonable offer and a workable solution. I'm not so great with contracts.
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    • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
      Fine. Would love to see what you consider a reasonable offer and a workable solution. I'm not so great with contracts.
      I doubt any Vancouver trade would happen for Kovalchuk. Vancouver would need to offload ~6.5 mil in cap space. That means a couple 3m+ plus players, or a 6.5 million player. It's not going to happen, not for Kovalchuk.
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      • I am sorry. I have made a mistake.

        Schneider should be off the cap.

        The 35+ rule counts in the second and later years of multiyear contracts. I lost track of details. It doesn't apply to him as he signed a one year deal.

        Edit, the Canucks are still cap screwed. They have to clear/trade $6.4 to get him in. Waiving Demitra would be $4 of that.
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        • Originally posted by notyoueither View Post
          I am sorry. I have made a mistake.

          Schneider should be off the cap.

          The 35+ rule counts in the second and later years of multiyear contracts. I lost track of details. It doesn't apply to him as he signed a one year deal.

          Edit, the Canucks are still cap screwed. They have to clear/trade $6.4 to get him in. Waiving Demitra would be $4 of that.


          Cory Schneider is no where near 35+ so I can't see how the rule applies to him.



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          • "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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            • Demitra is 2, and Bieksa 3.5. If Schneider is 1, they should have 6.5.
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              • WTF do you get your numbers?

                Demitra is 4, Bieksa is 3.75, Schneider is 0.984.

                They'd be giving up their #3 forward (in salary), #1 d-man (in salary), and #1 goalie prospect for a ~2 month rental on Kovalchuk. He's asking for $11M next year, so you won't be re-signing him...



                If they waive Demitra, they're giving him away for nothing. Doubt Atlanta would want him and his salary in return.
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                • Really?

                  Then they are well under.
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                  • If they dump both Bieksa + Demitra, then yes, they would have space for Kovalev as a rental for the remainder of the season.
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                    • Kovalev
                      When did he go to Atlanta?
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                      • Kovalchuk, whatever
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                        • From Darren Dreger:
                          Atlanta wants 4 or 5 assets for Kovalchuk. Young roster player(s), plus combo of draft picks and prospects.
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                          • I think they are dreaming.

                            The only way they get that is if they trade with a team that is able to extend him. With the time that is left, and the cash he feels he deserves, I am thinking that is unlikely.

                            They may have better luck with that in the summer, but then there is a high risk they get nothing if his ego over cash pushes him to the KHL.
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                            • Yes, it is an obscene price for a rental and they will not get it.
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                              • What is he worth, anyway? 6 to 7 mil cap hit would be about right off the top of my head.
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