FF09 IDP League Draft

[Ben Kenobi]

So what's the decision for Duke o York?

By the BAPAY rules he should get LeRon Maclean RB.

Are you going to go defense now instead?

[Ben Kenobi]

somewhat speedy at the top and bottom, with guys wearing lead pants down the middle

Hilarious.

[-Jrabbit]

So for the Duke, he gets a WR or a RB (has two of each).

For RB, it looks like Jamal Lewis/72 (straight Bapay) and Fast Willie Parker (smart Bapay) are the leading candidates. (McClain/47 is not an option IMHO.)

For WR, Laveranues Coles/79 (straight Bapay) and Lee Evans/86 (smart Bapay) stand out.

Since I draft 2 picks later and have needs at the same positions, I am recusing myself from this choice. So you guys work it out. Just please don't screw DOY.

G'night.

[Ben Kenobi]

Why isn't Mclean an option? He was picked earlier in the other league and he's 30 points higher in the BAPAY. It's not even close. Is he injured or something?

[Berzerker]

nm, let Guy make the pick

[-Jrabbit]

Guynemer is on jury duty today. If he doesn't check in early, we will BAPAY him a TE. (He sent me two picks, Cooley and Daniels, last night. Both are gone. Shiancoe is next Actual.)

For duke o' york -- He gets the W/R postion filled by Smart BAPAY. To review:

At RB, the following are starting RBs still on the board:
Jamal Lewis, Willie Parker, and Cedric Benson

The top available WRs are -- L. Coles, Lee Evans, maybe DeSean Jackson.

McClain is a nice player but will not be starting in Baltimore. I'd rather have Jerious Norwood or Darren Sproles. At least they get kick return yardage.

This round, we need someone to step up and make the pick -- other than Guy (gone today) and me (conflict of interest, same needs 2 picks later).

So I get to say it again: I recuse myself from making DOY's pick this round.

[Zopperoni]

I'm giving him Parker based on ADP. Lewis and Jackson were taken off the board BTW because of bye-week conflicts:

1.1 SlowwHand - Adrian Peterson - RB - MIN
1.2 EPW - Maurice Jones-Drew-RB-JAX
1.3 duke o' york - Michael Turner RB ATL (BAPAY)
1.4 Guynemer - Matt Forte RB CHI (list)
1.5 -Jrabbit - Steven Jackson RB STL
1.6 Deity Dude - Tom Brady QB NE
1.7 spaced cowboy - DeAngelo Williams RB CAR (BAPAY)
1.8 snoopy369 - Chris Johnson RB TEN (instructions)
1.9 Zopperoni - Drew Brees QB NO
1.10 Berzerker - Peyton Manning QB IND
1.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Steve Slaton RB HOU
1.12 Ben Kenobi - LaDainian Tomlinson RB SD
1.13 Jaguar - Frank Gore RB SF
1.14 Tuberski -Clinton Portis RB WAS

2.14 Tuberski - Larry Fitzgerald WR ARI
2.13 Jaguar - Brandon Jacobs RB NYG
2.12 Ben Kenobi - Philip Rivers QB SD
2.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Brian Westbrook RB PHI
2.10 Berzerker - Randy Moss WR NE
2.9 Zopperoni - Andre Johnson WR HOU
2.8 snoopy369 - Aaron Rodgers QB GB
2.7 spaced cowboy - Marion Barber - RB DAL
2.6 Deity Dude - Kevin Smith - RB DET
2.5 Jrabbit - Calvin Johnson WR DET
2.4 Guynemer - Greg Jennings WR GB
2.3 duke o' york - Steve Smith WR CAR (BAPAY -- fixed)
2.2 EPW -Reggie Wayne WR Ind
2.1 SlowwHand - Pierre Thomas RB NO

3.1 Slowwhand - Roddy White WR ATL
3.2 EPW -Ronnie Brown RB Mia
3.3 Duke o' York - Marshawn Lynch RB BUF (BAPAY)
3.4 Guynemer - Thomas Jones RB NYJ
3.5 Jrabbit - Ryan Grant RB GB
3.6 Deity Dude - Reggie Bush - RB - NO
3.7 spaced cowboy - Tony Romo - QB - DAL
3.8 snoopy369 - Knowshon Moreno - RB - DEN
3.9 Zopperoni - Darren McFadden RB OAK
3.10 Berzerker - Anquan Boldin WR AZ
3.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Wes Welker WR NE
3.12 Ben Kenobi - Antonio Gates TE SD
3.13 Jaguar - Donovan McNabb QB PHI
3.14 Tuberski - Larry Johnson RB KC

4.14 Tuberski - Roy Williams WR DAL
4.13 Jaguar - Julius Jones RB SEA
4.12 Ben Kenobi - Marques Colston WR NO
4.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Kurt Warner QB ARI
4.10 Berzerker - Jason Witten TE DAL
4.09 Zopperoni - Derrick Ward RB TB
4.08 Snoopy369 - Terrell Owens WR BUF
4.7 spaced cowboy - Chad Ochocinco WR CIN
4.6 Deity Dude - Joseph Addai - RB - Indy
4.5 Jrabbit - Jay Cutler QB CHI
4.4 Guynemer - Antonio Bryant WR TB
4.3 duke o' york - Matt Cassel QB KC (BAPAY)
4.2 EPW - Matt Schaub QB HOU (per instructions)
4.1 SlowwHand - Carson Palmer QB CIN

5.1 Slowwhand - T.J. Houshmandzadeh WR SEA
5.2 EPW - Dwayne Bowe WR KC (per instructions)
5.3 Duke o' York - Tony Gonzalez TE ATL (BAPAY)
5.4 Guynemer - Matt Ryan QB ATL
5.5 Jrabbit - Brandon Marshall WR DEN
5.6 Deity Dude - Donald Driver WR GB (BAPAY CHANGE)
5.7 spaced cowboy - Chris Wells RB ARI (from PM list)
5.8 snoopy369 - Jonathan Stewart RB CAR
5.9 Zopperoni - Braylon Edwards WR CLE
5.10 Berzerker - Leon Washington RB NYJ (bapay change)
5.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Anthony Gonzalez WR IND
5.12 Ben Kenobi - Hines Ward - WR PIT
5.13 Jaguar - Santana Moss WR WAS
5.14 Tuberski - Eli Manning QB NYG

6.14 Tuberski - Dallas Clark TE IND
6.13 Jaguar - Santonio Holmes WR PIT
6.12 Ben Kenobi - Vincent Jackson WR SD
6.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Eddie Royal WR DEN
6.10 Berzerker - Felix Jones RB DAL
6.09 Zopperoni - Ray Rice RB BAL
6.08 Snoopy369 - Jerricho Cotchery WR NYJ
6.7 spaced cowboy - Lance Moore WR NO (BAPAY)
6.6 Deity Dude - Bernard Berrian WR MIN (BAPAY)
6.5 Jrabbit - Greg Olsen TE CHI
6.4 Guynemer - Derrick Mason WR BAL
6.3 duke o' york - Kevin Walter WR HOU (BAPAY)
6.2 EPW - Owen Daniels TE Hou
6.1 SlowwHand - Chris Cooley TE WAS

7.1 SlowwHand - Rashard Mendenhall RB PIT
7.2 EPW - LenDale White RB TEN
7.3 duke o' york - Willie Parker RB PIT
7.4 Guynemer -

PM sent to Guy.

[-Jrabbit]

Thanks, Zopp.

Guynemer is on jury duty this morning. He wants a TE, but EPW and Sloww took the two on his list. So he gets the BAPAY, Visanthe Shiancoe. Obviously, he can change it later if he wants.

1.1 SlowwHand - Adrian Peterson - RB - MIN
1.2 EPW - Maurice Jones-Drew-RB-JAX
1.3 duke o' york - Michael Turner RB ATL (BAPAY)
1.4 Guynemer - Matt Forte RB CHI (list)
1.5 -Jrabbit - Steven Jackson RB STL
1.6 Deity Dude - Tom Brady QB NE
1.7 spaced cowboy - DeAngelo Williams RB CAR (BAPAY)
1.8 snoopy369 - Chris Johnson RB TEN (instructions)
1.9 Zopperoni - Drew Brees QB NO
1.10 Berzerker - Peyton Manning QB IND
1.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Steve Slaton RB HOU
1.12 Ben Kenobi - LaDainian Tomlinson RB SD
1.13 Jaguar - Frank Gore RB SF
1.14 Tuberski -Clinton Portis RB WAS

2.14 Tuberski - Larry Fitzgerald WR ARI
2.13 Jaguar - Brandon Jacobs RB NYG
2.12 Ben Kenobi - Philip Rivers QB SD
2.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Brian Westbrook RB PHI
2.10 Berzerker - Randy Moss WR NE
2.9 Zopperoni - Andre Johnson WR HOU
2.8 snoopy369 - Aaron Rodgers QB GB
2.7 spaced cowboy - Marion Barber - RB DAL
2.6 Deity Dude - Kevin Smith - RB DET
2.5 Jrabbit - Calvin Johnson WR DET
2.4 Guynemer - Greg Jennings WR GB
2.3 duke o' york - Steve Smith WR CAR (BAPAY -- fixed)
2.2 EPW -Reggie Wayne WR Ind
2.1 SlowwHand - Pierre Thomas RB NO

3.1 Slowwhand - Roddy White WR ATL
3.2 EPW -Ronnie Brown RB Mia
3.3 Duke o' York - Marshawn Lynch RB BUF (BAPAY)
3.4 Guynemer - Thomas Jones RB NYJ
3.5 Jrabbit - Ryan Grant RB GB
3.6 Deity Dude - Reggie Bush - RB - NO
3.7 spaced cowboy - Tony Romo - QB - DAL
3.8 snoopy369 - Knowshon Moreno - RB - DEN
3.9 Zopperoni - Darren McFadden RB OAK
3.10 Berzerker - Anquan Boldin WR AZ
3.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Wes Welker WR NE
3.12 Ben Kenobi - Antonio Gates TE SD
3.13 Jaguar - Donovan McNabb QB PHI
3.14 Tuberski - Larry Johnson RB KC

4.14 Tuberski - Roy Williams WR DAL
4.13 Jaguar - Julius Jones RB SEA
4.12 Ben Kenobi - Marques Colston WR NO
4.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Kurt Warner QB ARI
4.10 Berzerker - Jason Witten TE DAL
4.09 Zopperoni - Derrick Ward RB TB
4.08 Snoopy369 - Terrell Owens WR BUF
4.7 spaced cowboy - Chad Ochocinco WR CIN
4.6 Deity Dude - Joseph Addai - RB - Indy
4.5 Jrabbit - Jay Cutler QB CHI
4.4 Guynemer - Antonio Bryant WR TB
4.3 duke o' york - Matt Cassel QB KC (BAPAY)
4.2 EPW - Matt Schaub QB HOU (per instructions)
4.1 SlowwHand - Carson Palmer QB CIN

5.1 Slowwhand - T.J. Houshmandzadeh WR SEA
5.2 EPW - Dwayne Bowe WR KC (per instructions)
5.3 Duke o' York - Tony Gonzalez TE ATL (BAPAY)
5.4 Guynemer - Matt Ryan QB ATL
5.5 Jrabbit - Brandon Marshall WR DEN
5.6 Deity Dude - Donald Driver WR GB (BAPAY CHANGE)
5.7 spaced cowboy - Chris Wells RB ARI (from PM list)
5.8 snoopy369 - Jonathan Stewart RB CAR
5.9 Zopperoni - Braylon Edwards WR CLE
5.10 Berzerker - Leon Washington RB NYJ (bapay change)
5.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Anthony Gonzalez WR IND
5.12 Ben Kenobi - Hines Ward - WR PIT
5.13 Jaguar - Santana Moss WR WAS
5.14 Tuberski - Eli Manning QB NYG

6.14 Tuberski - Dallas Clark TE IND
6.13 Jaguar - Santonio Holmes WR PIT
6.12 Ben Kenobi - Vincent Jackson WR SD
6.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Eddie Royal WR DEN
6.10 Berzerker - Felix Jones RB DAL
6.09 Zopperoni - Ray Rice RB BAL
6.08 Snoopy369 - Jerricho Cotchery WR NYJ
6.7 spaced cowboy - Lance Moore WR NO (BAPAY)
6.6 Deity Dude - Bernard Berrian WR MIN (BAPAY)
6.5 Jrabbit - Greg Olsen TE CHI
6.4 Guynemer - Derrick Mason WR BAL
6.3 duke o' york - Kevin Walter WR HOU (BAPAY)
6.2 EPW - Owen Daniels TE Hou
6.1 SlowwHand - Chris Cooley TE WAS

7.1 SlowwHand - Rashard Mendenhall RB PIT
7.2 EPW - LenDale White RB TEN
7.3 duke o' york - Willie Parker RB PIT (smart Bapay)
7.4 Guynemer - Visanthe Shiancoe TE MIN (BAPAY)
5.5 Jrabbit -
5.6 Deity Dude -
5.7 spaced cowboy -
5.8 snoopy369 -
5.9 Zopperoni -
5.10 Berzerker -
5.11 Koyaanisqatsi -
5.12 Ben Kenobi -
5.13 Jaguar -
5.14 Tuberski -

Back with my pick shortly.

[-Jrabbit]

I was planning to go W/R, but defensive Bapays start in Round 8 and this guy absolutely killed me last year -- in 3 leagues. (I'm lookin' at you, Berz!)

1.1 SlowwHand - Adrian Peterson - RB - MIN
1.2 EPW - Maurice Jones-Drew-RB-JAX
1.3 duke o' york - Michael Turner RB ATL (BAPAY)
1.4 Guynemer - Matt Forte RB CHI (list)
1.5 -Jrabbit - Steven Jackson RB STL
1.6 Deity Dude - Tom Brady QB NE
1.7 spaced cowboy - DeAngelo Williams RB CAR (BAPAY)
1.8 snoopy369 - Chris Johnson RB TEN (instructions)
1.9 Zopperoni - Drew Brees QB NO
1.10 Berzerker - Peyton Manning QB IND
1.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Steve Slaton RB HOU
1.12 Ben Kenobi - LaDainian Tomlinson RB SD
1.13 Jaguar - Frank Gore RB SF
1.14 Tuberski -Clinton Portis RB WAS

2.14 Tuberski - Larry Fitzgerald WR ARI
2.13 Jaguar - Brandon Jacobs RB NYG
2.12 Ben Kenobi - Philip Rivers QB SD
2.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Brian Westbrook RB PHI
2.10 Berzerker - Randy Moss WR NE
2.9 Zopperoni - Andre Johnson WR HOU
2.8 snoopy369 - Aaron Rodgers QB GB
2.7 spaced cowboy - Marion Barber - RB DAL
2.6 Deity Dude - Kevin Smith - RB DET
2.5 Jrabbit - Calvin Johnson WR DET
2.4 Guynemer - Greg Jennings WR GB
2.3 duke o' york - Steve Smith WR CAR (BAPAY -- fixed)
2.2 EPW -Reggie Wayne WR Ind
2.1 SlowwHand - Pierre Thomas RB NO

3.1 Slowwhand - Roddy White WR ATL
3.2 EPW -Ronnie Brown RB Mia
3.3 Duke o' York - Marshawn Lynch RB BUF (BAPAY)
3.4 Guynemer - Thomas Jones RB NYJ
3.5 Jrabbit - Ryan Grant RB GB
3.6 Deity Dude - Reggie Bush - RB - NO
3.7 spaced cowboy - Tony Romo - QB - DAL
3.8 snoopy369 - Knowshon Moreno - RB - DEN
3.9 Zopperoni - Darren McFadden RB OAK
3.10 Berzerker - Anquan Boldin WR AZ
3.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Wes Welker WR NE
3.12 Ben Kenobi - Antonio Gates TE SD
3.13 Jaguar - Donovan McNabb QB PHI
3.14 Tuberski - Larry Johnson RB KC

4.14 Tuberski - Roy Williams WR DAL
4.13 Jaguar - Julius Jones RB SEA
4.12 Ben Kenobi - Marques Colston WR NO
4.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Kurt Warner QB ARI
4.10 Berzerker - Jason Witten TE DAL
4.09 Zopperoni - Derrick Ward RB TB
4.08 Snoopy369 - Terrell Owens WR BUF
4.7 spaced cowboy - Chad Ochocinco WR CIN
4.6 Deity Dude - Joseph Addai - RB - Indy
4.5 Jrabbit - Jay Cutler QB CHI
4.4 Guynemer - Antonio Bryant WR TB
4.3 duke o' york - Matt Cassel QB KC (BAPAY)
4.2 EPW - Matt Schaub QB HOU (per instructions)
4.1 SlowwHand - Carson Palmer QB CIN

5.1 Slowwhand - T.J. Houshmandzadeh WR SEA
5.2 EPW - Dwayne Bowe WR KC (per instructions)
5.3 Duke o' York - Tony Gonzalez TE ATL (BAPAY)
5.4 Guynemer - Matt Ryan QB ATL
5.5 Jrabbit - Brandon Marshall WR DEN
5.6 Deity Dude - Donald Driver WR GB (BAPAY CHANGE)
5.7 spaced cowboy - Chris Wells RB ARI (from PM list)
5.8 snoopy369 - Jonathan Stewart RB CAR
5.9 Zopperoni - Braylon Edwards WR CLE
5.10 Berzerker - Leon Washington RB NYJ (bapay change)
5.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Anthony Gonzalez WR IND
5.12 Ben Kenobi - Hines Ward - WR PIT
5.13 Jaguar - Santana Moss WR WAS
5.14 Tuberski - Eli Manning QB NYG

6.14 Tuberski - Dallas Clark TE IND
6.13 Jaguar - Santonio Holmes WR PIT
6.12 Ben Kenobi - Vincent Jackson WR SD
6.11 Koyaanisqatsi - Eddie Royal WR DEN
6.10 Berzerker - Felix Jones RB DAL
6.09 Zopperoni - Ray Rice RB BAL
6.08 Snoopy369 - Jerricho Cotchery WR NYJ
6.7 spaced cowboy - Lance Moore WR NO (BAPAY)
6.6 Deity Dude - Bernard Berrian WR MIN (BAPAY)
6.5 Jrabbit - Greg Olsen TE CHI
6.4 Guynemer - Derrick Mason WR BAL
6.3 duke o' york - Kevin Walter WR HOU (BAPAY)
6.2 EPW - Owen Daniels TE Hou
6.1 SlowwHand - Chris Cooley TE WAS

7.1 SlowwHand - Rashard Mendenhall RB PIT
7.2 EPW - LenDale White RB TEN
7.3 duke o' york - Willie Parker RB PIT (smart Bapay)
7.4 Guynemer - Visanthe Shiancoe TE MIN (BAPAY)
5.5 Jrabbit - Josh Wilson DB SEA
5.6 Deity Dude -
5.7 spaced cowboy -
5.8 snoopy369 -
5.9 Zopperoni -
5.10 Berzerker -
5.11 Koyaanisqatsi -
5.12 Ben Kenobi -
5.13 Jaguar -
5.14 Tuberski -

PM to Deity Dude

[snoopy369]

BTW, John Carlson (TE-SEA) is the BAPAY for Deity Dude, unless Guynemer changes his pick.

[Flubber]

AS only a casual fan I have found this interesting to watch (particularly Ben misunderstanding the rules) I was SOOOO shocked.

I did have a question--How did you pick a time to "stop the clock" ? (I am just thinking this could be fundamentally unfair if you had folks in Europe or Asia and was considering whether your style of BAPAY rules could apply in a hockey draft)

[Zopperoni]

Clock runs from 8am CT till 10pm CT. I just adjust to it like I have for the last eight years or so...

[SlowwHand]

People should leave a list. No doubt, you've seen that desire referenced.

[snoopy369]

AS only a casual fan I have found this interesting to watch (particularly Ben misunderstanding the rules) I was SOOOO shocked.

I did have a question--How did you pick a time to "stop the clock" ? (I am just thinking this could be fundamentally unfair if you had folks in Europe or Asia and was considering whether your style of BAPAY rules could apply in a hockey draft)

It obviously depends on who's playing. You don't have to stop the clock at all if it's a fairly international draft, though you might want to slightly lengthen the time you allow (say, 8 hours instead of 4). If it's nearly all north american, make sure your euro/asian/african folks leave lists

[Ben Kenobi]

AS only a casual fan I have found this interesting to watch (particularly Ben misunderstanding the rules) I was SOOOO shocked.

This is my first poly draft, dude. I'm still trying to figure **** out.

You wanna toss peanuts from the gallery, why don't you join us next time?