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  • The NFL vastly overrates -- and overpays -- its first-round picks. It's something the league has to address, as there are too many quality veterans (even All-Pros) being paid far below these unproven rookies, some of whom are inevitably disappointments. Screws up the salary structure bigtime.

    [I believe -- OK, "hope" is more accurate) that a structured rookie salary cap is one of the league's (owners') goals in recently opting out of the collective bargaining agreement.]
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    • The Penguins break off talks with Hossa...he's to become a UFA.

      List of free agents available July 1st: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=11...topRelated_nhl
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      • Really interesting article on Ovechkin's older brother, who is apparently a video guy for a WNBA team: http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008...ther-ovechkin/
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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        • Lecavalier signs a $77M deal for 9 more years.

          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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          • Flames place Warrener, Eriksson, and Nilson on waivers

            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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            • Flames re-sign Langkow , Conroy (meh), Nystrom (meh), and McElhinney (cool).
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              • Oilers swap Stoll and Greene for Visnovsky.

                Visnovsky's got a $5.6 mil cap hit for the next 5 years.

                This is pretty comical:
                Visnovsky - 5.6 million
                Souray - 5.4 million
                Gilbert - 4.0 million

                Those are three suspect players to have as your top 3 d-men, I'd think...with some massive, long term salaries.

                "In 2012, they'll be paying a collective 11 million for a 36-year-old Souray and a 36-year-old Vishnovsky."

                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                • And?
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                  • You'll see.
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                    • Well, aside from being factually innacurate, what else have you got?
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                      • Sorry, looks like it's 9.5 and not 11. That makes all the difference.

                        It's 11 in cap hit, which is actually the important number.
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                        • Are these Tom Gilbert numbers real?

                          Why the **** is he getting $5M in salary in 2011/2012?

                          He's got 39 points in 94 career games with a -7, and he's signed to a high-priced long-term contract through 2013?
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                          • They regard him highly. They got 2 or 3 UFA years for the 4 mil cap hit.
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                            • Just to put this in perspective...

                              Robyn Regehr + Dion Phaneuf are both cheaper in terms of cap space in 2011/2012 than Souray & Visnovsky.

                              In 2011/2012:
                              Souray & Visnovsky will be 36 years old each with a combined cap hit of $11M.
                              Regehr will be 33 and Phaneuf will be 28 with a combined cap hit of $10.5M.

                              This is what I'm laughing about. Souray and Visnovsky are one-dimensional powerplay quarterbacks that happen to suck ass at even strength. I'm pretty sure if you'd ask which pairing each team would prefer to have, Regehr & Phaneuf would win out every single time except to Oilers fans...

                              And the Gilbert thing, WTF. K-Lowe is trying some experiment of epic proportions on the backend, and so far it looks awesome from a Flames perspective.
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                              • Souray isn't under contract in 12/13.
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