AHL- Apolyton Hockey League 07/08: V Blades of Glory

[Flubber]

Originally posted by notyoueither


First of all, I was replying in the spirit of the thread. Some people are making less than thought out criticisms of 'my' team, so I was sending some of the poo back down the QE II.

Asher and you do tend to get caught in the rhetoric-- Sue me for reacting as if you might believe some of what you are spouting ( I disagree with Ashers pro-Flames rhetoric too sometimes)

Originally posted by notyoueither

Sorry you don't like it, but the comments about loser points are not really my own creation. They do make a handy stick to pick up though.

I neither like or dislike the comment. I simply responded to its merits

Originally posted by notyoueither

Please tell us what it says when 1 team is 1-5-3 in abbreviated OT, while another is 0-1-12? Which record would you prefer the Flames have, and what can these records tell us if they are tortured into comparison to playoff hockey?

In the Flames case it says they suck in overtime. This is partly a result of Kippers general not so good performance in the first 20 games as he tended to let in a questionable goal fairly early in OT which frankly didn't give 90% of the team a chance to take the ice.

I am concerned by many aspects of the Flames team and play. I do not see them as being anywhere near an elite team although I do see some pretty solid tools that SHOULD make them a solid playoff team. But a failure to win in overtime is just part of the bigger thing where the Flames have found ways to not get a victory in a disproportionate number of games in which they outplay the opposition.

This is actually a change from the last couple of years since in the past, the Flames would win a fair number of games (largely through Kipper stealing them) that they were totally dominated in. So I am very concerned by the Flames OT record.

At the same time I AM encouraged by the Flames play lately. They have been outworking and generally outplaying some reasonably good teams. When I see that I figure it will all work out

[Flubber]

Oh and another 2 possible theories about the Flames suckage in regular season OT-- I don't necessarily subscribe to the first but perhaps the second has some merit

1. its 4 on 4 -- perhaps there is something about the Flames systems, lines, mindset or SOMETHING that is not great for 4 on 4 play

2. Knowing that they face a shootout soon where they have REALLY sucked, the Flames either tense up or press too much for the win in OT

[Flubber]

Hmmm-- are my players suddenly allergic to powerplay points--- My guys had a very decent 4 goals and 4 assists tonight but not a single PPP

[Flubber]

another reasonably decent effort by the Flames squad -- except for Kipper-- When your goalie posts a .750 night against shots that were largely routine .. . it does not bode well

[Asher]

Yeah, the game wasn't the best. I did like the jump in the offense, I hated the reffing (brutal), and Kiprusoff wasn't good at all.

[Flubber]

I am actually thinking that the next couple of games are gut-check times for the Flames-- they get Anaheim and then the Canucks again- Having a "good game' in a losing effort can get real old real fast--- Its time for them start to own their own barn again


Oh and I am LOVING les HABS -- they seem to find a way to win time after time. There is a part of me that fears they will fold like they did last year but they already survived Huet's inevitable injury and they seem to get a lot of production from their 3rd and 4th lines

[Asher]

What an AWESOME game to be at.

Loved it. My throat is a bit sore from all of the Bertuzzi booing, but I'll manage.

I'm not sure if they showed it on HNIC, but someone threw (with quite impressive velocity) a dead duck with a Flames shirt on, onto the ice in the 3rd. Awesome.

[Ming]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Are you trying to get NHL threads banned from Poly?

I think both you and Asher are trying to not only get the hockey threads banned, but yourselves banned as well.

Now both of you... CHILL.
No more of the personal crap. Yeah, Asher stopped and notyoueither kept it up, but you are both at fault here.

ENOUGH!

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Ming


I think both you and Asher are trying to not only get the hockey threads banned, but yourselves banned as well.

Ming

While I know that "hockey threads" have been the source of some of the more heated stuff, shouldn't you just moderate posters and not thread types?-- assuming the thread type itself is completely benign of course

I don't see any reason why hockey threads have to necessarily be a victim if you find certain behaviors unacceptable by one or two posters.

[Flubber]

Back to hockey

While its still pretty early, I think tonight is a big game in the Flames season-- They have been very unsuccessful against the Canucks this season and Luongo has been amazing of late-- stealing game after game

Last time out, the Flames had a reasonable effort against the Canucks and actually it was Kipper's poor play that did them in-- so its time for Kipper to at least equal a top goalie playing well and see his team outplay its opponent enough to win-- I will be interested

Coming off a nice come-from-behind win against the Ducks, it would be nice to see them establish a little momentum at home

[Asher]

Flames continue to roll with another win!
Oilers continue to fall with another loss!

What're the Oil at now, 9 regulation wins in the past 55 games going back to last season?

[notyoueither]

Time for a new one

http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=173338