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  • #286
    Originally posted by Kontiki
    This year's Hart trophy should be good for some more debate. The clear choices in the pure sense of MVP are Brodeur and Luongo, but then there's the "Hart is for skaters, the goalies already have the Vezina" camp. I'm a little torn on the issue myself.
    Yeah, that's a tough one. I think the logical core of that argument is that, for almost every team, the goalie is the most important player. Thus, it's hard to judge them fairly against the skaters.

    I mean, without Rick DiPietro's improvement, the Isles would be nowhere near the spot they are today. So, in that way, he's more 'valuable' to his team than, say, Marty St. Louis, because Tampa would probably still be a playoff team (although lower ranked, obviously) if they only had Vinny and Brad Richards carrying the load. But does that mean DiPietro's actually closer to being an MVP than St. Louis? I don't think so.

    So, yeah, I'd agree that Brodeur or Luongo or Kiprusoff would be the true MVP candidates, but it'll probably go to Crosby... but that's okay, too.
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    • #287
      Man, decisions decisions...

      NYE and I are tied with 2W, .894svp, 0 SHO each...

      I have a goalie who can play tomorrow (Denis vs WAS), he doesn't.

      If I play him and he does well, I get a W and perhaps win svp%...and if I play him and he sucks, I lose svp%....

      I think I'll throw the dice on this one.
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      • #288
        Originally posted by Kontiki
        This year's Hart trophy should be good for some more debate. The clear choices in the pure sense of MVP are Brodeur and Luongo, but then there's the "Hart is for skaters, the goalies already have the Vezina" camp. I'm a little torn on the issue myself.
        I'm biased . But I think Brodeur makes a good case for the Hart as a goalie. Especially when you look at the number of games he backstops for the Devs. The Devils don't score all that much (in fact they have the 2nd worst Goals Scored in the Eastern Conference, but by far the best Goals Against in the East & #1 in that category in the league). The Devils rely on Brodeur perhaps more than any other team in the league leans on their goalie.
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        • #289
          On the other hand...

          The devils have a huge defensive-first attitude, take the least amount of penalties in the league, and in general gift Brodeur a lot of games.

          If Kipper didn't get Hart last year, Brodeur certainly shouldn't get it this year.
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          • #290
            Man, Smolinski is a douche...that was such a fake.
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            • #291
              Slick, nye.

              Adding 4 skater games tomorrow to try to catch up. Ugh.
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              • #292
                I have no choice but to respond in kind with scraps. Good thing the fact that you whored up first may be the decisive factor in this week's game.

                Lame...
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                • #293
                  Originally posted by Asher
                  Slick, nye.

                  Adding 4 skater games tomorrow to try to catch up. Ugh.
                  2, and what did you expect?
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                  • #294
                    Originally posted by Asher
                    I have no choice but to respond in kind with scraps. Good thing the fact that you whored up first may be the decisive factor in this week's game.

                    Lame...
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                    • #295
                      Originally posted by notyoueither
                      2, and what did you expect?
                      That you would take it like a man. I apologize.
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                      • #296
                        Let's see. Player movements since the 12th, before today.

                        Whiney *****: 5
                        nye: 2

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                        • #297


                          Why wouldn't anyone do whatever they can to try for victory, rather than give up?

                          I suspect if NYE had done nothing, you would have been chiding him for being a quitter and not giving it his all.

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                          • #298
                            Originally posted by notyoueither
                            Let's see. Player movements since the 12th, before today.

                            Whiney *****: 5
                            nye: 2

                            They were player upgrades on players not performing, not schedule whoring.

                            Funny that you don't include the 11th, where you made a bunch of player movements...
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                            • #299
                              Originally posted by Hot Mustard
                              I suspect if NYE had done nothing, you would have been chiding him for being a quitter and not giving it his all.
                              Not at all. We had even amounts of skater games remaining, I thought it'd be a fair finish. He added a goalie game and skater games at the last minute to try to get an advantage that way, which I don't think was kosher.

                              If I was an ass like that, I would've added Kolzig myself and guaranteed myself a win today, but as I said...I think wins like that are hollow. It's not all about winning any way you can, it's about picking good players for being good players. I can't stand schedule-packing strategies.

                              That's one advantage of Yahoo's Rotisserie style...they have a maximum skater games restriction to prevent players like nye and you from doing that ****. I have written Yahoo and asked them to make it a weekly option for H2H as well next season, hopefully they can implement it.
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                              • #300
                                Well, nye took sv% and W...
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