Israel's right to Defend

[My Wife Hates CIV]

Dang. Well said ming! All your posts.

[Uncle Sparky]

Maybe tRump can order the carpet bombing of both the combatants... think of the Real Estate posabilities!
Did any US media cover tRumps quotes about developing sea side resorts once Gaza is rid of Palestinians? (2,000,000 people, 141 square miles) (Chicago is 227 sq. miles)

[N35t0r]

Notice how the Iranian military is not hiding in tunnels under residential areas though....

Oh right, those dumb Hamas should have made their bunkers under the mountains in Gaza, they'd have been safer.

[SlowwHand]

sloow and people like him have zero difference from the average nazi german citizen that supported the extermination of jews

You're so full of ****.

[Geronimo]

who controled the UN?

and why should the palestinians made to pay for what europeans did

First the Ottoman empire paid for taking the wrong side in WWI. The Balfour declaration could be seen as settling debts at the expense of that defeated enemy. The later creation of the Jewish state was about exactly as evil as the transfer of large territories from Germany and the rest of the central powers following that war. Having said all of that it is long since past time for the State of Israel to provide a way out of ghetto-hood for every resident individual born in the territories they control. It's insane to continue with any plan that gives them no way out on an individual basis. So much of the harm that is done in failing to provide options for all of those people is in pursuit of protecting Israels character as a Jewish state. It's time to abandon that.

[Uncle Sparky]

140 - 150 more of those awful 'starving Palestinians' killed by Israeli army. They really need to pick up the pace. People looking at property in Gaza are getting impatient.

[Geronimo]

140 - 150 more of those awful 'starving Palestinians' killed by Israeli army. They really need to pick up the pace. People looking at property in Gaza are getting impatient.

Perhaps they need a few more Hamas "successful military operations" like 7 Oct 2023 to better motivate them? Or perhaps the problem is just too few "successful military operations" on Hamas's part? If they have been using the time to plan a few more such ingenious military attacks into Israel and "successfully" execute another one will that help the Israelis pick up the pace or would they instead realize that resistance is futile and finally go home to await the next lesson from Hamas?

[Uncle Sparky]

The West, led by the US, has killed over 5 million people in the Middle East since 2003 and they are calling Iran a threat to world peace. This contradiction stands because the West does not see those 5 million people as human. If you feel I'm being unfare, read the posts in this thread, or older threads on Iran, Iraq and Israel.

Oh well... idiots.

[Dauphin]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLBfQzDMtT8/?igsh=MWY1aWR5NDZqbXpxeg==

Like a fever dream. I don’t like Tucker, but damn.

[SlowwHand]

[QUOTE=Uncle If you feel I'm being unfare, read the posts in this thread, or older threads on Iran, Iraq and Israel.

Oh well... idiots.[/QUOTE]

Go back and read Iraq scudding Israel, with no retaliation.
or Iran taking U.S.citizens hostage.
unfair isn't even close to beingÊ» correct.

[Uncle Sparky]

Tucker Carlson wants US to let Israel fight Iran on their own.

But why should he matter?

The power lies with the host of Celebrity Apprentice, the former WWE CEO, and the former co-host of Fox & Friends. WW3 anyone?

[N35t0r]

Go back and read Iraq scudding Israel, with no retaliation.
or Iran taking U.S.citizens hostage.
unfair isn't even close to beingÊ» correct.

So you think that a couple million dead Iraqi civilians is 'fair game' for the Iraqi government lobbing some scuds at Israel?

Then those scuds were 'fair game' for Israeli support to Iran during the Iran-Iraq war (see how dumb this line of thinking goes? No, of course you don't).

Or Iran having taken US citizens hostage, after the US had couped the democratically elected government to install a dictator.

Or only actions taken after a specific point (that you pick) matter, and anything before is irrelevant and shouldn't be considered (unless it's Jews living in the levant over 2000 years ago)?

[SlowwHand]

I think that you couldn't care less about provocation. To you, Israel and the U.S. will always be at fault. So, I couldn't care less about your opinions.

[Geronimo]

Iran warns of "permanent" consequences to the US if the US joins the attack. If Iran detonates even one dirty bomb in a city in a red state, what reasonable person wouldn't be concerned about what madness Trump will respond with? Does anyone here really doubt iran's ability to get such a device in the hands of an Iranians agent anywhere they please within the US?

[Dauphin]

That is my primary concern in all this, but I think that Iran leadership knows that if they do that, all out destruction for them is inevitable. Last resort act of a dying man if they were to do it. And regime change and threats to the leaderships lives make it more, not less, likely.