Israel's right to Defend

[Uncle Sparky]

Congress and SCOTUS need to step in to force other 'world leaders' to obey tRumps whims.

[Geronimo]

of course hate and ethnic intolerance is bad. I believe that a two state solution would be feasable IF BOTH PALESTINIANS and israelis were serious about it. Wasn't during clinton era that an accord was signbed? with arafat and some israeli guy that was later assasinated?

the israeli was, not the palestinian.


Allso you threw some british in there. I don't know if they in what goes on now. I know they messed up cyprus and gave up the ionian islands in real politik because they were going to get kicked out.

I don't really like the british but noone does, believe me. unless maybe slowwhand in texas

I brought them up because they thought splitting a colonized region up along religious lines was a good idea with India and they wanted to split their UN British Mandate of palestine along arbitrary borders as well. I generally prefer multi-ethnic democracies to religiously or even ethnically "purified" gerrymandered successor states any day of the week. More switzerlands and Canadas please. Less pakistan/India splits.

[Geronimo]

Congress and SCOTUS need to step in to force other 'world leaders' to obey tRumps whims.

They've already been warned that they are IN VIOLATION surely? Yes, let's give the president the powers he needs to deal with these various losers who are clearly too dumb to run a garage sale let alone a whole country.

[BeBMan]

Moving comment to quote:
At the higher rational level. It was a predictable outcome. He was warned of this outcome. It was hubris to think he could control the outcome. He helped create the conditions of this outcome. He is blaming others, and walking away rather than owning it or fixing it. His deal making ego is hurt. On that level it’s a huge failure of his foreign policy and he’s shirking responsibility for that failure.

For the more cynic take, Trump's comments now are just targetting the part of the MAGA base that didn't like the Iran strikes in the first place.

Assuming they're indeed as successful as claimed (satisfying the other part of his base which welcomed thoses strikes), that's easy talk now.

Not saying this has to be it, since my mindreading device was a cheap Temu purchase only

[Bereta_Eder]

I brought them up because they thought splitting a colonized region up along religious lines was a good idea with India and they wanted to split their UN British Mandate of palestine along arbitrary borders as well. I generally prefer multi-ethnic democracies to religiously or even ethnically "purified" gerrymandered successor states any day of the week. More switzerlands and Canadas please. Less pakistan/India splits.

that's a very american way of thinking where you have people from say italian and vietnamese background and they all speak english and they all (maybe) swear allegience in the flag and have the same president.

that's an exception. real world (no offense at real I hope) doesn't work that way.


distinct peoples ahve very distict cultures common references a common stray of history and culture and they can I think be happy living side by side in peace.

you can't force greeks and turks to live together altough there are a lot of commonalities in foods etc in deep cultural traits (I won't even touch religious) there are heavy tectonic differences even if one chooses not to see them.

having said that people are people and good people exist everywhere, and maybe turks have retained a politeness (*gasp*) that a visceral target oriented greek has relinquised.


in any case, why force people to live together when they can live side by side in peace.

but I lso undersdtand your POV but it is too "american/canadian whatever other 2 or 3 countries in a planet of 200) and it's not about real people. sorry if I offend, it's myh way of saying american/canadian/australian is a sui generis and an exception (which I don't like as a modus vivendi although I do like the US for other reasons)

[Bereta_Eder]

now if you brought as an example switzerlamnd where differene cantons/nationalities/ethnicities live side by side in one state with peace, and they are the richest country in the world btw,

then way Ok maybe. Or even the US and canadian model too, if that works, I have no objection either as long as it's a viable solution that brings peace. but I think only a two state solution without any external players (be that islamists terrorists or US genocidal supporters) would work

[Bereta_Eder]

again i'm not playing holier than thou. greece and israel are as tight as an ass and underwear so if you're a genocidal supporter so is the current administration

although admidetly the amount of damage you can do is not comparable

[dannubis]

For the more cynic take, Trump's comments now are just targetting the part of the MAGA base that didn't like the Iran strikes in the first place.

Assuming they're indeed as successful as claimed (satisfying the other part of his base which welcomed thoses strikes), that's easy talk now.

Not saying this has to be it, since my mindreading device was a cheap Temu purchase only

Don't worry. my tier 1 mind reading advice won't work on trump either...

[Uncle Sparky]

If people were not dying, the world’s biggest joke which is tRump would be a lot funnier.