Politics Thread

[Ming]

Still NO PROOF. Just opinions, and wild ass theories. You claim proof based on opinions, but no real evidence.
And I guess in your opinion, if they don't find proof about election fraud in the next ten years, that's just proof there was election fraud?
Case after Case, investigation after investigation... they all come back the same. NO MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD. And most of the little examples of fraud were on the Republican Side

[Berzerker]

yes... but you beat me to it

[Berzerker]

does that look like a defense?

[Jon Miller]

The media would not defend Ray Epps if he really was a MAGA "insurrectionist"

Can you provide any evidence of this defense? I haven't seen it.

I did see this

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/12/why-cant-right-wing-bubble-give-up-ray-epps/

JM

[Berzerker]

Let's see... it's been over 2 years, AND THERE IS STILL NO EVIDENCE. TIME will NOT TELL. It's over, there was no massive fraud. PERIOD. Trump Lost.
And your, the "govt is hiding the extent of its involvement"... NO PROOF OF THAT EITHER. Just wild ass conspiracy theories from Right Wing hacks like the Heritage Foundation.
And if you actually read all the indictments, there are some very serious charges which they ACTUALLY HAVE EVIDENCE OF.
But feel free to keep believing he did nothing wrong. He did... LOTS OF THINGS.
He is his own worst enemy. For a man who claims how smart he is, he sure can act stupid.

It took us a few years to learn Russiagate was a scam, voting machine manipulation would be a much tighter conspiracy with fewer loose lips. Yes there is proof the govt is hiding the extent of its involvement, thats why they were so mad when McCarthy gave Carlson access to capital video. I saw undercover govt assets over ruling uniform cops guarding a locked door. They moved the cops away and opened the door to let protesters in. There is other video showing uniform cops removing barriers and waving people in, but that came after the breach led by Epps and his crew.

Thats why the Washington FBI wouldn't give video to local FBI branches being told to chase down rioters. Yeah, the local FBI asked for the video so they'd know who to look for and what they did, Washington told them they couldn't have the video because it showed govt assets. Doing what exactly? Why would a local FBI office tasked with arresting rioters care if govt assets were caught on film? Washington cared... Those assets were misbehaving.

I hear Epps is being charged now lol. Yeah, whatever happened to the young man who breached a barrier 2-3 seconds after Epps whispered into his ear?

[Berzerker]

prolific lies about election fraud aint illegal and the Dems spent years claiming the '16 election was rigged

[Berzerker]

The media would not defend Ray Epps if he really was a MAGA "insurrectionist"

[Ming]

What is childish about Tony I-am-the-science Faustian? While children might see the humor in Tony's appeal to authority I dont think Faust would enter their minds. Our current president calls people names, Fauci called people names, smeared them, including scientists, while bribing others sounding the alarm about Covid's origin with grants to back him up. Of course the election was rigged, the govt at numerous levels censored people. The deep state gave the media the rationale for censoring the lap top story by claiming it was Putin helping Trump the traitor.

I dont know about the ballots/voting, 81m for Joe when Trump got 10m more than '16 raises an eyebrow but I dont see anyone with evidence of machine tampering, time will tell. Jan 6 was a riot and the govt is hiding the extent of its involvement from the accused who could or would otherwise claim entrapment. That bothers me more than the rioters. I haven't seen the recent charges against Trump but given the Dems' track record I wont be surprised when this pile of wet firecrackers fizzles too.

Let's see... it's been over 2 years, AND THERE IS STILL NO EVIDENCE. TIME will NOT TELL. It's over, there was no massive fraud. PERIOD. Trump Lost.
And your, the "govt is hiding the extent of its involvement"... NO PROOF OF THAT EITHER. Just wild ass conspiracy theories from Right Wing hacks like the Heritage Foundation.
And if you actually read all the indictments, there are some very serious charges which they ACTUALLY HAVE EVIDENCE OF.
But feel free to keep believing he did nothing wrong. He did... LOTS OF THINGS.
He is his own worst enemy. For a man who claims how smart he is, he sure can act stupid.

[BeBMan]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66263089

Edit: ooops pchang already posted it.

[Berzerker]

The information I cited was lacking in the video... Why is that my fault? Yes, I think the Pfizer shot was 1/2 the strength of the Moderna shot. And you complain about mocking people?

[Berzerker]

The Feds knew about Hunter's lap top long before the election. They buried it. And they had a plan if and when it didn't stay buried. They told media be prepared for Russian election interference, its a coming. Ofc the media is nothing but propagandists for mass murderers so it aint like they were gonna rush out and tell the world about Joe Biden. That information will only become widely available when Wall St decides its time for Joe to go.

[Berzerker]

So Berz... do you think it's OK for an Ex President to be calling people by childish insulting nick names?
Is that how Ex Presidents should act?
Do you believe there was massive levels of fraud and that he actually won?
Do you believe that the Jan 6th was just a peaceful protest?
Do you actually believe that Trump didn't illegally try to hold on to office after he lost?

What is childish about Tony I-am-the-science Faustian? While children might see the humor in Tony's appeal to authority I dont think Faust would enter their minds. Our current president calls people names, Fauci called people names, smeared them, including scientists, while bribing others sounding the alarm about Covid's origin with grants to back him up. Of course the election was rigged, the govt at numerous levels censored people. The deep state gave the media the rationale for censoring the lap top story by claiming it was Putin helping Trump the traitor.

I dont know about the ballots/voting, 81m for Joe when Trump got 10m more than '16 raises an eyebrow but I dont see anyone with evidence of machine tampering, time will tell. Jan 6 was a riot and the govt is hiding the extent of its involvement from the accused who could or would otherwise claim entrapment. That bothers me more than the rioters. I haven't seen the recent charges against Trump but given the Dems' track record I wont be surprised when this pile of wet firecrackers fizzles too.

[-Jrabbit]

Ah, the evidence-based world of "don't know the data source" with a dose of "I heard, I think"...

[Berzerker]

in 2016 there was an effort from Democrats to overturn the election results, among the tactics employed was harassing electors into becoming 'faithless'. Some did vote against Trump, some got death threats.

[Ming]

So Berz... do you think it's OK for an Ex President to be calling people by childish insulting nick names?
Is that how Ex Presidents should act?
Do you believe there was massive levels of fraud and that he actually won?
Do you believe that the Jan 6th was just a peaceful protest?
Do you actually believe that Trump didn't illegally try to hold on to office after he lost?