Politics Thread

[Ming]

https://twitter.com/simonateba/statu...85337982656687
Right wing propaganda on Biden, Burisma and Shokin

FIFY

Let us know when there is REAL proof that Joe was involved, and not simply Hunter just being pond scum.
And if you want to go after Hunter, go after Jared Kushner as well. It seems his Saudi business deals are just as shady.
And we won't talk about all of Trumps business deals with the Saudis, Russia and China. I wonder what they expected (and got) in return for all of their "investments" in Trump.

[Jon Miller]

It's a reason to look for smoke and fire, or for an investigation, but the smoke (or BBQ) could be somewhere else entirely.

Also, with the Supreme Court's decision on McDonnell v. United States, the definition of fire is such that even if you can see the smoke there is probably no fire (and definitely most times that you can smell smoke there is no fire).

JM

[PLATO]

Smelling smoke is a good reason to assume a fire isn't it? Just sayin'

[Jon Miller]

That is just ridiculous.

They talk at the beginning as if there is a picture with all of the people together, but there isn't. There are some unsubstantiated claims, which have been made for a couple of years (but was not made at the time) and has remained unsubstantiated despite many investigations.

I think it is reasonable to have an investigation. But you and others are presenting this as if there is a smoke and fire and there is neither smoke nor fire, just a smell in the air.

JM

[Berzerker]

https://twitter.com/simonateba/status/1696585337982656687

a primer on Biden, Burisma and Shokin

[Berzerker]

https://youtu.be/9RFMQEEmU8g

oh joy, the new variant of covid is more contagious for people who got covid or the vaccine. Dont know if people who had both are even more susceptible. Course the people who never got covid might have better natural immunity so they're not a good group for comparison.

[Berzerker]

https://youtu.be/kDuHuRnksMw

Glenn Greenwald on the GOP debate discussing how the audience is selected and seated to favor the establishment and donors and why they like Nikki Haley

most important issue of the day and she's indistinguishable from Brandon

[Berzerker]

https://youtu.be/NwWfnYuvluM

Marion County Register case, they show the old woman's son talking about what happened. The paper told the top cops they're being accused of favoritism so they raided the paper and the co-owner died the next day from a heart attack. Its more complicated, someone told the paper a local businesswoman applying for a liquor license had her drivers license suspended in 2008 for DUI and other driving infractions. So what? Anyway, the woman accused the paper of getting information about her illegally and apparently thats why the cops raided the paper.

Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill. So the liquor board learns the applicant had a DUI 15 years ago. Its always the cover up... Apparently the cops were letting her drive around w/o a license (not sure about that, where was the favoritism?) or looking the other way. But then they went and did this, killed the old woman with an illegal raid. The press is under attack in this country.

[Broken_Erika]

USA need an equivalent of the Canadian Rhinoceros Party or the UK Monster Raving Looney Party,

[Berzerker]

check the donors' lists

[PLATO]

we have a Wall St party

Interestingly (something I didn't know) there are quite a few political parties active in the U.S. ("Wall St" party not on list)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States

[Berzerker]

we have a Wall St party

[Berzerker]

sorry, 'the left' aint behind this crap

[Berzerker]

I'm still laughing about this story

[Jon Miller]

Also, 2008 type win for the democrats might not actually be enough to cause the Republicans to move on.

JM