Politics Thread

[Berzerker]

the Biden WH had an internet meme censored

it showed Leonard DiCaprio in Once upon a time in Hollywood sitting in a chair pointing to the TV screen 10 years in the future as a lawyer's ad appears asking if you or a loved one got the Covid vaccine, you might be compensated

[Berzerker]

https://youtu.be/MBwyqmgXf4g

Orf did a video about the email chain between fauci and these scientists, they were in a panic about the lab leak

[Berzerker]

Speaking of perjury, on Feb 1 2020 Fauci was told by several scientists Covid likely came from a lab. Fauci gave them millions in grants and they changed their tune but they hid the monetary relationship when testifying to Congress.

[Berzerker]

Stacey Plaskett (D-delegate Virgin Islands) took big money from Jeffrey Epstein after his sex conviction. Apparently he was somewhat of a king down there.

Stacey recently made a name for herself smearing journalists who exposed the govt conspiracy to censor the internet. She even argued Matt Taibbi face perjury charges for something she dreamed up in her head.

[Berzerker]

How else would I know the day's narrative? Convince us you read mine.

[Berzerker]

Burisma was told they needed to get these investigations out of the way to raise capital in the US. How did they do it? They paid Biden to accuse the prosecutor of corruption and replaced him with someone who would get the investigations out of the way. So naturally Democrats told us Shokin was fired for refusing to investigate Burisma. Trump wanted that investigated so they impeached him after they wanted Ukraine to investigate Trump. The Dems are a bottomless pit of deceit, hypocrisy and projection.

[Broken_Erika]

Do you even read our posts?
Or are you brain-dead set on Sleepy Joe Biden Bad?

[Berzerker]

I cant access the NYT, the 2nd link to the Irish Times is from the spring of '16 after Shokin was fired. Biden bribed Ukraine to fire him in the winter of '15-16 and that article cites the EU and so-called Ukrainian reformers getting western money supporting his dismissal.

from USAToday

"Without pressure from Joe Biden, European diplomats, the International Monetary Fund and other international organizations, Shokin would not have been fired, said Daria Kaleniuk, co-founder and executive director of the Anti Corruption Action Centre in Kiev.

"Civil society organizations in Ukraine were pressing for his resignation," Kaleniuk said, "but no one would have cared if there had not been voices from outside this country calling on him to go."

Joe Biden headed the list followed by an assortment of people working for Joe Biden or his friends... including Daria Kaleniuk

These reformers have been on our payroll for a decade or more and Shokin was fired for investigating our corruption, Joe's corruption.

[Jon Miller]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/10/03/what-really-happened-when-biden-forced-out-ukraines-top-prosecutor/3785620002/

JM

[Jon Miller]

Links again (not all, just two easily found ones)

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/30/world/europe/political-stability-in-the-balance-as-ukraine-ousts-top-prosecutor.html

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/eu-hails-sacking-of-ukraine-s-prosecutor-viktor-shokin-1.2591190

JM

[Jon Miller]

Are these links in this thread and did I fail to respond to them? Who called for the firing of Shokin and when and do they have any connections to Burisma or Biden? The opinions of Republicans are irrelevant to me, they're making money in Ukraine too.

I believe you focused just on the Atlantic Counsel, and you dismissed the others (like the Republicans).

I just found one name for the EU diplomats, Jan Tombinski, but in most sources it is just unnamed EU diplomats (Germany is mentioned and others). I also had mentioned the IMF (with a name, Christine Lagarde), but you said that was just Biden... which isn't the level of control that the President can even pull for important national desires much less the Vice-President for small $10m bribes.

Your point of view on this is just madness. And you continue to go 'what about' and ignore the fundamental point of the wrongness of Trump threatening to withhold aid of the US government for personal purposes. Biden didn't do that. Top EU diplomats, Republicans, the IMF president, other groups all were calling for Shokin to be fired.

JM

[Jon Miller]

Biden's actions in 2015-2016 were supported by the EU and our allies, because the prosecutor was corrupt. Who else was supporting Trump not providing the support to Ukraine in order to get Ukraine to announce an investigation into Joe Biden, other than maybe Russia?

JM

[Ming]

And you can whine all you want about Hunter... And I hope he goes down in flames... But Trump is getting special treatment as well. Anybody that has done what he has done would not be getting the preferential treatment he has. And this whole, let's not prosecute me until after the elections is total BS.

[Ming]

And even more Maga Nazis are trying to ban even more books. We have a state that want's to prosecute librarians for books in the libraries, and we have a Houston school district that just closed all the school libraries and converted them to detention centers for students. It's starting to look even more like Nazi Germany, all thanks to the Republicans/Nazis.

[Broken_Erika]

https://youtu.be/1SQYcRWzTeY

wow, the DoJ prosecutors tried to create a plea deal that would have freed Hunter from other charges but a deal that bypassed judicial approval. The judge asked the prosecutor if other plea deals were structured that way and he said no, this was just for Hunter apparently.

That's what usually happens with children of rich and/or powerful people.