Politics Thread

[Ming]

It's seems to be all a matter of opinion. Both sides have their reasons for believing what they want in terms of interpreting what he said.
I'm with the people who see it as relating to the country and not the car industry because of how he phrased it. And based on things he have said in the past. Just my opinion.
But to whine about how one side sees it is wrong. Both sides have a legitimate position.

[Dinner]

It's seems to be all a matter of opinion. Both sides have their reasons for believing what they want in terms of interpreting what he said.
I'm with the people who see it as relating to the country and not the car industry because of how he phrased it. And based on things he have said in the past. Just my opinion.
But to whine about how one side sees it is wrong. Both sides have a legitimate position.

Then you didn't watch the whole 17 second clip because immediately before and after he was talking about the car industry so the context is not even slightly unclear.

[BlackCat]

Here are a nice little video describing the American socalled "journalist" that Berz are so proud of.
Of course he wasn't killed by the Ukrainians - he more or less killed himself because he thought he new better than docs and science. Strange, I think we actually have a person here with the same thoughts - wonder who that can be

[Berzerker]

Glenn Greenwald said he first realized how corrupt our media was toward Trump in 2016 when they took his joke about Russia finding Hillary's emails seriously. That was followed by someone reportedly trying to hack into her emails which was naturally blamed on Russia. Is Putin Trump's puppet or just really stupid or did the deep state fake a hack to connect the same non-existent dots Hillary's campaign was drawing? Her lies convinced Fisa judges to let the Democrats spy on Trump.

[Berzerker]

Here are a nice little video describing the American socalled "journalist" that Berz are so proud of.
Of course he wasn't killed by the Ukrainians - he more or less killed himself because he thought he new better than docs and science. Strange, I think we actually have a person here with the same thoughts - wonder who that can be

Was Lira sentenced to 5 years? Maybe that's what Musk was claiming. He died after he was attacked in prison. The man who attacked him later apologised and said he was told to do it and the prison let him die. Your source quotes wikipedia? Much of your video was devoted to Lira's rant about nice guys and women and divorce. Where was the evidence of his crime? And he finished by asking a series of questions suggesting Lira cussed out our State Dept people and declined help but admits he ran for his life. I didn't see any flags in Lira's work studio, just equipment I'd expect a journalist to have. Your source has a Ukrainian flag on the wall instead.

[BlackCat]

Was Lira sentenced to 5 years? Maybe that's what Musk was claiming. He died after he was attacked in prison. The man who attacked him later apologised and said he was told to do it and the prison let him die. Your source quotes wikipedia? Much of your video was devoted to Lira's rant about nice guys and women and divorce. Where was the evidence of his crime? And he finished by asking a series of questions suggesting Lira cussed out our State Dept people and declined help but admits he ran for his life. I didn't see any flags in Lira's work studio, just equipment I'd expect a journalist to have. Your source has a Ukrainian flag on the wall instead.

Ah, denying facts yet again. There is a pretty precise description of what he did. Just out of curiosity, why is showing a flag that important to you ? You seem quite obsessed by such.

[Ming]

Glenn Greenwald said he first realized how corrupt our media was toward Trump in 2016 when they took his joke about Russia finding Hillary's emails seriously. That was followed by someone reportedly trying to hack into her emails which was naturally blamed on Russia. Is Putin Trump's puppet or just really stupid or did the deep state fake a hack to connect the same non-existent dots Hillary's campaign was drawing? Her lies convinced Fisa judges to let the Democrats spy on Trump.

Let's talk about how corrupt the media is FOR Trump. They kept pushing his elections lies. At least FOX paid the price.
And more deep state BS... must be watching more internet videos

[Berzerker]

Yes, Glenn Greenwald is on the internet. You've heard of it? Google has been caught rigging elections for Democrats, more to come.

[Berzerker]

Ah, denying facts yet again. There is a pretty precise description of what he did. Just out of curiosity, why is showing a flag that important to you ? You seem quite obsessed by such.

There was a description of the crime but no evidence. The flag does not inspire confidence in your source's credibility. Kiev murdered their own peace negotiator and punished all sorts of people for 'spying', Kiev has no credibility either. They murdered him and Joe let it happen. If Trump did that I'd dump on him too and he'd deserve it.

[Ming]

One more time... Please PROVE that "Joe let it happen" Oh that's right... you can't. Just total BS that you are trying to present as a fact instead of an internet conspiracy video.
And when are you going to stop dumping on Trump for all his lies and crimes. It's strange, you never do, yet you blame every problem in the world on Biden.

[Berzerker]

The WH knew Lira was in jail, they were asked about it during press conferences

Lies and crimes are commonplace. If you want criticism of Trump I'll repeat what I said in the past, he let Ukraine fester, he's complicit in the Yemeni genocide, he failed to get us out of Syria and Iraq, and he hired Tony Fauci. Those are my main gripes with Trump.

[-Jrabbit]

Lira was: 1, not an actual journalist; 2, an extremely pro-Russian vlogger; 3, a self-acknowledged conspiracy theorist; 4, a bail jumper; and 5, Coach Red Pill, an incel dating advisor.

Wiki describes Lira as: "Chilean-American novelist, filmmaker, commentator and self-styled dating coach. He was involved in the manosphere, posting anti-feminist content under the name Coach Red Pill." There is literally no listing of any news organization in Lira's employment history. Unless you count YouTube.

[Berzerker]

Trump has to pay close to a half billion in fines for illegal business practices

in other news, donations are pouring into the Biden campaign from Wall St

[Ming]

Blah Blah... you have still not called out Trump for his daily and repeated lies.
And you still haven't proven that Joe "let it happen"
Just more made up conspiracy BS. You are welcome to your opinion... but your opinion is not fact or proof.

[Berzerker]

I don't call out Biden for his daily lies

[Ming]

That's because you are too busy blaming Biden for EVERY problem in the world.
Gee... if we counted the number of times you have called out Biden vs calling out Trump, I don't think ANYBODY WOULD BE SURPRISED that it probably like 95% or more of the time for Biden, and less than 5% for Trump.
Maybe you don't call out Trump lies because you actually believe them. You do repeat the maga conspiracy theories on a regular basis.

[Berzerker]

if this forum was full of Trump/Maga supporters I'd be arguing with them but its full of TDS so I argue with you

[Berzerker]

https://rumble.com/v4k1wsb-system-update-243.html

Glenn Greenwald analyzes today's SCOTUS hearing on the decision by lower courts ruling the Biden administration violated the 1st Amendment by coercing social media to censor. Matt Taibbi joins Glenn for the 2nd hour.

He's skeptical the court will uphold the lower courts, they might punt with no standing.