Politics Thread

[N35t0r]

https://apolyton.net/forum/miscellaneous/off-topic/9437299-prediction-thread-when-will-ukraine-conquer-russia?p=9463175#post9463175

targeting Russian DNA

You do know that if that were possible, it would also target Ukrainians, and it wouldn't target a large percentage of Russians (those coming from Russian colinized territories in the Caucasus and Siberia), right?

[Berzerker]

the west just spent a decade killing ethnic Russians and dont give a rat's arse about either Russians or Ukrainians

I didn't say anyone was targeting Russian DNA, the Russians and Chinese are making that claim at the UN based on evidence from our biolabs

I asked if it was possible to target or protect specific DNA groups...hilarity ensued

[Ming]

the west just spent a decade killing ethnic Russians and dont give a rat's arse about either Russians or Ukrainians

And the Russians have killed far more Ukrainians and Russians since the beginning of the war they started, and they don't give a rats arse about anything except their land grab. But go ahead and continue supporting their "humanitarian" aid.

[Ming]

They are dying for their own freedom... the freedom to not have Russians raping and killing them simply so that Russia can expand their empire.

[Berzerker]

Azov does not offer freedom

[Broken_Erika]

Yet the current Russian government makes the original Azov battalion look pacifist in comparison. Have you paid any attention at all to what Russia has turned into?

[Berzerker]

https://youtu.be/IiA1S6NvCo4

delta data

New study out of Israel shows natural immunity acquired from covid infection is 13x better than vaccine immunity and 27x less likely to have a symptomatic infection

8 vaxxed people were hospitalized, 0 with natural immunity

as for longevity of protection, covid infection was 6x better than the vax at 6-17 months and 7x better at preventing symptomatic infection

conclusion: previously infected people unlikely to benefit from the vax

apparently Joe Biden has called for another round of vaccinations

[Jon Miller]

I think I and my family got Covid for the first time in July.

It knocked me and the kids out for a week (and we took another week easy, and my running speed is still down). It knocked my wife out for two weeks.

There are still plenty of people out there who could use a vaccine, because they haven't gotten Covid or haven't had it in years.

JM

[giblets]

Anything targeting "Russian" DNA is going to be dangerous to all humans

[pchang]

Silly rationalist. You can’t debunk crazy conspiracy theories with science!

[Uncle Sparky]

Any conspiracy theorist will know looking at dancing bananas will destroy their DNA

[Berzerker]

not to those with immunity

[BeBMan]

Just wanted to say that DeSantis is governor in Florida for quite some time now, but has he drained any of them Florida swamps yet??? Yeah, there you have it

[Berzerker]

To have cannabis use disorder, or CUD, a person must have two or more of such symptoms as craving weed, becoming tolerant, using more than intended, using marijuana even though it causes problems in life, using it in high-risk situations, experiencing withdrawal and being unable to quit, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

“The main take home message of our study is that cannabis use disorder is common among primary care patients in a state with legal cannabis use,” said Lapham, who is also an assistant investigator at the Kaiser Permanente Washington Health Research Institute.

In addition, using both medical and recreational weed led to a more severe addiction than using medical marijuana alone, the study revealed.

“Not all people will want or remember to report their cannabis use … therefore, this study likely underestimates the prevalence of cannabis use disorder,” he added.

Weird, I'd think under-reporting use would mean they're over-estimating the damage. As for those symptoms, are all cravings disorders and are there people out there without cravings? Which is the 'disorder', cravings or no cravings? Becoming tolerant is what the body does. If I eat more potato chips than the recommended serving do I have an eating disorder? I suppose so if I crave chips.

Of course using pot causes problems in life, users get tossed in the pokey, stereotyped in negative terms, fired from jobs, denied 1st and 2nd Amendment rights (and others), and the people persecuting them are the biggest drug dealers on the planet. High risk is relative, is driving high risk? The general advice on drugs applies - see how it affects you before operating heavy machinery. That means 1st time users are at greater risk, not 'seasoned' veterans who've used pot for years. I quit using a few times, had to for reflux. No withdrawals ever.

And ofc medical pot users qualified for CUD less than medical/recreational users, the definition equates more use with the disorder. I'm sure people who have smoked pot know about tolerance, occasional use produces a better high because the brain's receptors aren't saturated with the chemicals. I dont know when they came up with CUD as an official designation but it looks like its meant to include just about anyone who likes pot.

[Berzerker]

"Leadership on Pentagon budgets on Capitol Hill is dominated by lawmakers from shipbuilding communities like Sen. Roger Wicker, R-Miss. The industry directs tens of millions of dollars of campaign contributions to key lawmakers and mounts lobbying campaigns pushing the Navy to build more ships.

In just the past eight years, Congress has added $24 billion in extra money to build ships, more than any other part of the Pentagon budget, even as lawmakers have cut spending on repairs to the fleet, according to an analysis by the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments."

Crooks, war profiteers, ghouls... And their priorities make us less safe, navies are quickly becoming obsolete. Surface vessels are death traps and submarines will join them soon enough. Drone warfare, unmanned submersibles, missiles, these will rule the seas

[Berzerker]

[Jon Miller]

Possibly the only one of those I care about the opinions of at all is Arnold. And that mostly because I consider him a reasonable opponent.

JM

[Berzerker]

I think you're missing the point, they reflect the narrative pushed by big pharma and the politicians/media they bribe

this message was brought to you by Pfizer

[Berzerker]

https://youtu.be/LXJf8f9N-lA

56 minutes in Aaron Mate discusses the firing of Shokin and whether or not the EU really wanted him fired. No, Shokin was being praised by the EU and Victoria Nuland before Biden dropped the hammer on him.

The US line changed in late 2015 when Burisma told Hunter to get Shokin's investigation shut down.

[N35t0r]

lol

The EU also wanted him fired, but most importantly most Ukrainians wanted him fired.

I'm sure you can find evidence of all this praise coming from the EU. I'm waiting.

[Berzerker]

The link showed the EU praising Shokin, so were Nuland and other officials. Mate made note of it. Do you have evidence the EU wanted him fired before Burisma and/or Joe? The EU didn't initiate Shokin's firing, they kissed Biden's arse and he was bribed by Burisma (so was The Atlantic Council). And most Ukrainians didn't want him fired, Biden had to wave a billion at the politicians and twist arms to get him fired. Do you have a poll showing most Ukrainians wanted Shokin fired?

[N35t0r]

You didn't provide any link, just a YouTube video which I will not watch.

You are bringing up a claim that goes against established truth, you must have evidence of all this praise from the EU and also a poll stating that Ukrainians loved him. Please provide the evidence.

[Broken_Erika]

Best Pandemic Take.

[Berzerker]

“I am troubled by the governor’s remarks,” Lee said in a Sunday statement. “The idea that a Black woman should be appointed only as a caretaker to simply check a box is insulting to countless Black women across this country who have carried the Democratic Party to victory election after election.” - Barbara Lee (D-Ca)

Apparently Newsom wont endorse her... He's in a tough spot, he wants to run for prez and needs the black vote and said he'd appoint a black woman to replace Sen. Feinstein, but the neocon establishment hates her and loves Adam Schiff. She was the lone vote against invading Afghanistan.